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utfyrfytr

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Pocono, I didn't mean power loading as much as simply having it in gear so it is under power but idling.
I am also a little confused by how Jim loads his boat while standing on a dry ramp. That is what I was trying to ask him to clarify in the post just above yours. Thanks for your input, I asked for help and everyone has their own way of doing things. I just have to find what works for me.

Jim is the book you referenced actually called A Trailer Boat Book?
 

JimS123

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Jim thanks for your response. When you retrieve your boat do you winch it all of the way onto the trailer or do you power it partially onto the trailer and then winch it the rest of the way?

Winch it all the way, no problem. Over the years 2 trailers I bought new had straps that would not reach the back of the trailer, but when I complained to the manufacturer they sent me an extra long replacement.

This is the best pic I have. The trailer is backed in so the last roller just touches the water. That roller is self-centering. Although not in the pic the edge of the water is just about at the winch stand. So I can comfortably stand behind the winch and not get wet.

My larger boat is a 19 foot I/O which is much heavier and carried on a tandem axle trailer. It also has a keel roller on the end, but it has swinging roller bunks instead of the fixed bunks you see in the pic. When unloaded they swing down and toward the center so when I retrieve I merely walk the boat in between them and then attach the winch. The fenders are high and dry so that's an easy task. In this position, the bow is already several feet into the trailer, though still fully floating. Since that rig is a lot longer, the winch stand is even further out of the water.

I cranked that boat on fully for many years. When I hit 65 I DID put on a power winch, not because it was necessary, but rather I'm getting lazy in my old age.

People that power load are shunned in my area. People that try to load a submerged trailer always get it on crooked. They are the ones that hold up the ramp.

I think the book was Trailer Boat Basics, but I really don't remember. It had all good ideas, but truthfully all it did was repeat what my Grandpa taught me years before.

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MTboatguy

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My balance is so bad, I would end up in the water every single time!

:lol:
 

poconojoe

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Jim, thanks for the pictures and explanation.
How do you hook on the winch strap without going in the water? From the dock with the extra long strap?
I don't think I could do it that way with my 18' bowrider. My trailer doesn't have those drop down bunks that you describe. I know If my trailer isn't in deep enough, it's too much weight to crank the winch.
 

JimS123

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My balance is so bad, I would end up in the water every single time!

:lol:

I have a relative that is just like that. If the dock is floating and there is any amount of wave action, she can't board the boat. That's why she doesn't go boating very often.
 

JimS123

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Jim, thanks for the pictures and explanation.
How do you hook on the winch strap without going in the water? From the dock with the extra long strap?
I don't think I could do it that way with my 18' bowrider. My trailer doesn't have those drop down bunks that you describe. I know If my trailer isn't in deep enough, it's too much weight to crank the winch.

The trailer is in the water and the boat is behind it, tied with lines. Loosen the lines and pull the stem towards the dock. The bow eye is within easy reach, so hookup is easy peasy. Then push the stem into the last roller, walk to the winch stand and crank. I do it solo all the time.

Quality winches are 2-speed. Use the fast setting to get the boat started. Once the keel is centered over 2 rollers its dead on straight and now you can take your time. Switch to low speed, low force and crank the rest of the way.

Not rocket science. I have shown many people how to do it at the ramp when they were floundering taking up the lone dock. Some say TU, but most swear at you because you showed them the easy way and they were now embarrassed.

Winch straps are quite strong and have a lot of tensile strength. I am amazed on how some will go ballistic at the thought of cranking, but are perfectly happy wading to their crotch and even falling in due to moss covered ramps.

We crank on my son's 25' cruiser (5200 pounds) and it just takes a few extra minutes.

If you have a bunk trailer (what I call a storage trailer) it can be converted to a launching trailer easily with a set of EZSlides. While I prefer a full roller trailer, the slicks are a best second choice.
 

MTboatguy

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I have a relative that is just like that. If the dock is floating and there is any amount of wave action, she can't board the boat. That's why she doesn't go boating very often.

Well I didn't used to be like that, but after being wounded while in the service, then breaking my back in 2007, I can get real shaky on my feet sometimes.
 

utfyrfytr

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MT, having been in the military for 6 yrs and a fireman for 41 yrs, I know that Thank you's are not given out often enough, so "Thank You" for your service to our great country. Also thank you to all of the people who use this site who are current or former members of the military.
 

Redfred1

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I'm with 123. Launching ; the boat floats off; Admiral has the bowline rope on the dock. After I park; I pull the strap out to the end of the trailer. I put walk boards on my trailer. I just walk to the end of the trailer; attach the hook; start the boat in the notch on the roller Tightening the strap will keep the boat straight. Power loading can be done with idling in gear; less cranking. Admiral kills and raises OB. Once out of water; she grabs two cokes; and we are off.to the room.
Took some practice and knowing what to do; now it's easy. And No wet feet!
 
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