rooster tail

hbski

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Re: rooster tail

Ok im really bored atm heres a diagram, im sure it would be much heavier than a tin can depending on how you made it, man i need to get out and try it myself haha!

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12-24" of 3" Pvc, 3" to 1" pvc reducer 2" of 1" pvc, pvc 45 degree coupling, 6" of 1" pvc

If you make the thing big enough it you should be able to cut it down if need be. Anyone remember building potato cannons? It should funnel the water into the 3" section, compress the crap out of it then send it flying out the 1" end at high pressure.

*Note* Seems like tossing something out the back with boat already at speed would cause a major jerk on the string or whatever was attached to the can/tube. If it did grab and the string wasnt strong enough it could just break off :\

Need to get all these forces balanced to make something like this work. that small nozzle is going to react quite a load from that water being shot up. In other words there will be a huge force directed 180 from the exiting water. In this diagram, there is nothing to react that force. It will most likely push the leading edge up out of the water.

You have many forces which would need to be balanced here:

1) Force of exiting water
2) Pressure at inlet
3) Force of the string
4) Drag on the exterior of the fixture
5) Drag on the interior of the fixture
6) Buoyancy (negligible)

Not that it can't be done, just that the dimensions need to be correct.

One thing to consider may be having the rooster nozzle off of a reduction tee to try to stabilize the flow. That is have maybe a 3 inch pipe reduce to 2 1/2 at the same location that the 3/4 or 1" nozzle comes out the top. Since the primary flow is so much larger, it may be easier to balance out the rooster flow.
 

scrobo

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I liked the idea better with a can.

The simplicity itself is what makes it so quaint.
 

sun_runner235

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I liked the idea better with a can.

The simplicity itself is what makes it so quaint.

How's this for simplicity....throw a set of skis on this guy and drag him with the boat. Should get about as much result as the can would! :D
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needmorespeed

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ok,,ok,,,you got me thinking now,,,lol..which isnt a good thing i assure you...I am definatly going out with the kids as I promised them soo,,,I will try this theory of the can and I WILL TAKE PICTURES and be assured if i cant get it to work,,,,well nobody will......ohhh was that a dare???? lol....Hi all new to the forum boated for many years love this site...this is coocky enough for me to try..lol..
 

CBBAYLINER

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This is def interesting. I am going to summerville this weekend and will try a few ideas.. The can needs a lil fabricating in my eyes.. I will post pics.
 

needmorespeed

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Ok you got me,,,I looked stupid sitting at the dock with fishing line and a soup can,,then heading out...lol..i could not get this work at all tried different lengths nothing,,i tried to make a mount at the front of the can and made sure my holes were at 10 and 2 oclock. all i got was a bunch of funny looks and a soup can bouncing all over the top of the water at slow and fast speeds. I even put it out there and let the thing sink still no sucess...LMAO too funny......
 

WaterWitch2

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Somewhere, someone is laughing their butts off saying "I can't believe they _really_ thought this would work!" :D

Seems like nobody can make this work. Is it a joke or does it really work?
 

sun_runner235

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I think we need to make a prize format similar to the "X Prize". ($ awarded to the first private space flight, and now one for the first private moon landing) We could call it the "DOH! Prize". First one to get the can to work wins and gets bragging rights all over the website. LOL
 

Nova II 260

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Here's how I remember the water-whisle to be. allthough it was made of steel and smaller.
 

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T S N

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A soup can, or what ever , shooting a rooster tail up,will have 10,20,30 lbs downforce on it.
What is going to keep it from going to the bottom?

I love this stupid human trick.

Get a bunch of stupid humans to drag a can behind their boat.
trying to make a rooster tail.HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
 

scrobo

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I feel rediculous.

But I'm heading up to bass Lake in the morning. I'll try again!

AND AGAIN!

UNTILL I GET IT!

:)

It's all going to work out in the end. :)
 

scrobo

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A soup can, or what ever , shooting a rooster tail up,will have 10,20,30 lbs downforce on it.
What is going to keep it from going to the bottom?

I love this stupid human trick.

Get a bunch of stupid humans to drag a can behind their boat.
trying to make a rooster tail.HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

The actual physics are pretty sound. Although the force of the water pushing upwards will force the can down, the pitch of the towline will attempt (with speed and tension) to keep the can perpendicular with the anchor points.

In theory... this really _should_ work.
 

OhWellcraft

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When I was a kid my dad picked up an old tahiti jet boat. It had a 455 olds wildcat with dual carbs and a tunnel ram. Poster child of an early 70's SK funky paint and interior etc. It had a jet with a TRIMITRICK on it, the rooster tails that thing would shoot out were awesome. You could adjust the shift handle to either go straight up(60-70 feet) or go straight back(70-90feet and about 10feet high). You could destroy a skier on a 75' rope. The thing was so fun to mess around with you could litteraly put out fires on the beach. Come straight in , about 20' from shore line crank the wheel and stand on it (yes it had one of those big foot things as the gas pedal) and soak everything. I havent seen one of those since then. Probably cause of the twenty gallons of gas it would eat in about 15 minutes.
 

glennrow

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my guess here is that we are now "snipe hunters" on the lake.
 

BAYLINER185

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I was hoping to see some pics of this.

I also wanna try this.. I have 2 soup cans I was saving in my garage for soem household project...yea thats why I was saving them. Now Im gonna make a rooster tail maker with one lol.

Ill have to try this easy trick and amuse my friends lol.
 

HighTrim

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So SCROBO, ur the one driving around lake ontario towing the mushroom can eh? :) What I was impressed with was some of the diagrams that were done, good use of AutoCad?
 

scrobo

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HAHAHAHA:D

That was not me though :) I do it up north where I can look normal. ;) Up there anything goes. Saw a guy floating around fishing on a huge innertube with a plywood deck and a tent on it. Me pulling a mushroom can around up there looks normal :)

I don't even like taking my boat out on the big Lake O. Haven't had a pleasent experience out there YET. She stays on the small lakes.
 
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