"It's President Bush's Fault" The bad guys' MOM

RubberFrog

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Ms Padilla is a democrat.
 

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Smite the Saracens!.....:)
 

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hardly a complete victory
authorities touted him as a key al-Qaida operative who planned to detonate a radioactive "dirty bomb"
convicted of conspiracy to murder, kidnap and maim

DAMN IT!!!!! That's it!!!!!! I want a full blown investigation!!! Why would we prosecute a guy who simply wanted to Kill and Maim!!!!!! If they're not using a Dirty Bomb, the killing will be waaaaaaay less complete and the Maiming will not be in the form of future agony due to radioactive poisining!!! What these guys were plotting was more simple Killing and Maiming, let them go!!!!!! Not even close to the same thing . . .
 

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Oh, oh, I can't help it . . . Conviction = Good for America and Bad for the Democratic Party ;)
 

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"They claimed that he was routinely subjected to...loud noises and noxious odors."

I didn't know RF hired out to the Feds torture division!
 

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Oh, oh, I can't help it . . . Conviction = Good for America and Bad for the Democratic Party ;)
How is this bad for the Democratic party?....:confused:
 

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"They claimed that he was routinely subjected to...loud noises and noxious odors."

I didn't know RF hired out to the Feds torture division!
:D Very Good!
 

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How is this bad for the Democratic party?....
You are either being purposely argumentative or took a stupid pill today (and the day before, and the day before that, and the . . )

1) They (Dems) cannot claim that Alberto Gonzales, Bush and the Puppy beater are incapable of bringing a terrorist to Justice.

2) They cannot say that his rights were violated and use his innocence as proof.

3) They cannot say that our Justice Department is incompetent in this case.

4) They cannot accuse Bush of being on a Witch Hunt in this case.

5) They cannot claim that we are missing the real criminals while we fiddle fart around in Iraq.

6) They cannot say that Terrorism is not a threat to the Homeland.

7) They cannot claim that increased vigilance is not warranted.

Well I guess they can and probably will, but this case should make it harder to listen to them. Man, you could try just a little sip of the water Blo Mo Fo Ho. I am just trying to make sure you don't expire from a thirst for knowledge. It's altruistic, I swear it is . . . :p :p :rolleyes:
 

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The Dems (and others that support the constitution) simply wanted these guys that are being held charged in court, and given a fair trial, instead of being held indefinitely with no legal recourse.

He was tried and convicted. A definite victory for the Dems, and others that believe in constitutional rights.

The legal system can work, despite what the right wing wackos would have you believe.
 

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And to think, the only punishment outlined for a crime in the US Constitution is HANGING......for TREASON. Sign up for a terrorist training camp? Sounds like treason to me!
 

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More Malarky......
So now he is a convicted terrorist......
So what?......
At least he was able to get a trial.....
Thank You, PW for one again discrediting the cockamamy theory that has been posited.....
Quibblin', them 'shrooms effects will wear off soon, I hope.....;):)
 

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1) They (Dems) cannot claim that Alberto Gonzales, Bush and the Puppy beater are incapable of bringing a terrorist to Justice.

----So why don't they use the system? They were forced to with Padilla, over their objections

2) They cannot say that his rights were violated and use his innocence as proof.

----It is not a prerequisite to be innocent to have rights---rights are either violated or they aren't---guilt or innocence have nothing to do with it.

3) They cannot say that our Justice Department is incompetent in this case.

---Bush and Co is the ones that seem to think that is true--why else would they want to deny them a fair trial?

4) They cannot accuse Bush of being on a Witch Hunt in this case.

---Huh?

5) They cannot claim that we are missing the real criminals while we fiddle fart around in Iraq.

So Padilla was the worldwide mastermind of AlQaida? And all this time I thought it was OBL. I know, Padilla was number three. We've caught about ninety number 3's so far!


6) They cannot say that Terrorism is not a threat to the Homeland.

---Who said that? They only said that we still have a constitution, and it remains in effect, despite what this administration believes.

7) They cannot claim that increased vigilance is not warranted.

---Who claimed that???



I think you guys on the right, and all the talk radio mouthpieces, need to take a serious refresher course in the constitution, and what it means!
 

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So now he is a convicted terrorist......
So what?......​

I'll answer that one for you . . . soooooo we now have another convicted terrorist and another potential terrorist in jail. I think that's good. You?
 

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Yes, & it is good for the Democratic party, the Rehub party & the U.S. of A........;):)
 

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I did not make one point regarding the Constitution, nor did I dismiss it. I am simply pointing out that Padilla behind bars is good and that any success by this Administration is bad for Dems. Period. Don't put Constitutional Ignorance in my mouth . . . I completely understand the assertions about Gitmo, I just happen to think these guys are Enemy Combatants . . . Oh, and by the way, the Geneva Conventions do not apply to people that are not in uniform if we want to go down that road. Look it up. . . ;)

BTW, I did not directly connect innocence with Civil rights abuse. I said that innocence cannot be used as evidence of abuse if he was indeed found guilty . . . I understand how you might be confused, but I know that guilt and innocence aren't the point. I guarantee if he had been found innocent the screams of "see we told ya" would've been louder than any of our keyboards a clackin' . . .

Thank you for the detailed response. Oh, oh, the "huh?" to Witch Hunt seems odd. Again, if Padilla was found innocent the claims of Bush being on a Witch Hunt would've been deafening . . . ;)
 

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I did not make one point regarding the Constitution, nor did I dismiss it. I am simply pointing out that Padilla behind bars is good and that any success by this Administration is bad for Dems. Period. Don't put Constitutional Ignorance in my mouth . . . I completely understand the assertions about Gitmo, I just happen to think these guys are Enemy Combatants . . . Oh, and by the way, the Geneva Conventions do not apply to people that are not in uniform if we want to go down that road. Look it up. . . ;)

BTW, I did not directly connect innocence with Civil rights abuse. I said that innocence cannot be used as evidence of abuse if he was indeed found guilty . . . I understand how you might be confused, but I know that guilt and innocence aren't the point. I guarantee if he had been found innocent the screams of "see we told ya" would've been louder than any of our keyboards a clackin' . . .

Thank you for the detailed response. Oh, oh, the "huh?" to Witch Hunt seems odd. Again, if Padilla was found innocent the claims of Bush being on a Witch Hunt would've been deafening . . . ;)
Pure (inaccurate) speculation......;):)
 

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it is good for the Democratic party
OK, to bring this full circle . . . How? Not for individual Democrats, the party, and it's ability to win elections . . ;)
 

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Pure (inaccurate) speculation......
You're a piece of work. You would've been first in line . . . Give me at least a grain of credit. Jeez.
 

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I will have to consult the wicked witch on what she thinks of your 'strawman' arguement& get back to you......;):)
 
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