Stringer Pushing through bottom of Boat?

[whywhyzed]

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[whywhyzed]

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[seven up]

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There are many Securities and Exchange Commission filings available through "EDGAR" as public information.

The hierarcy of several companies meshed into Tracker Marine Group, LLC are listed as well as the Directors and Investors.

In comparison, banks can be skiddish about shellings out millions in loans to companies with repeated product flaws.

All the best to you and yours.

 

[whywhyzed]

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[John_S]

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Sometimes when you draw the mfg attention to these threads, their first action is having them deleted.

 

[cbavier]

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that sounds like a computer generated b/s trigger..... duck when you see that and wait to hear the splat before you lift your head again

It was computer generated. It stated so on the email. It only confirmed that they had received it and would direct it to the proper representative. The point is they did get the email. If they choose to ignore it and not respond. It will just confirm their attitude towards their customers which they so seemingly have demonstrated about this issue and all the other complaints logged against them in all three forums about the same problems.

If I was a Boat manufacturer and there were multiple complaints about the same problem over and over. I would be addressing this issue to my Quality Control first. Then my Service Representatives and finally to my dealers. Then I would strive to satisfy my customers and resolve the issue. In other words DO SOMETHING to stop/ fix an obvious problem.

 

[baineyg]

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I just got off the phone with BPS. They said the insurance man is in the boat right now. I'll have to wait for their survey report but service said it looks like the surveyor is going with the "loose gas tank" idea. Apparently when a 45 gal tank comes loose it breaks the boat apart.
It's back on Tracker to decide to fix it or try to repair it. After I get the final Survey I'll let everyone know exactly what it says.
Thanks for forwarding this to Tracker. I hope their corporate sales department monitors these threads and puts a happy ending to this tale!

 

[azlakes]

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... and when the gas tank finishes wrecking your boat, it lands back in the same place it started from? proceed with caution my friend.

 

[redfury]

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Loose gas tank meaning? Spilling gasoline causing hull integrity to fail? Burn the boat then, it isn't worth squat if that's the case. Loose tank as in moving around? shouldn't a fuel tank either be designed to fit into a compartment the size of the tank, or secured in some other way to prevent that from even being a possibility? Odd. I'm looking forward to the final analysis by the insurance agent.

 

[oops!]

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ya know.......

my ol beast is a 69 searay...tank rides in the bow..its a big one.......just sits there.......

the deck was rotten.....that thing never moved.....an inch......

drew mitch and erik have the same setup.......

wadda ya think guys?

 

[Lou C]

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Well I have not seen the boat in person, but I can tell you on my old Four Winns, there was so much rot that the 3 of the 4 gas tank mounts (really just 1x2 strips screwed to the inner stringers) had rotted off! I had been running it like that for all of the 2005 season (didn't take up the tank cover that year, had done a minor floor repair in 2003). Anyway, I don't think my tank was moving much, but it was a 44 gal tank which had to be pretty heavy and I was taking this thing into LI Sound! The point is that the tank was not well secured and there was no glass damage when I took it apart. But I don't know how the mounts on those boats are configured. As long as they replace the boat, it may not matter what reason they use to justify it, in the end. I made a nice strong mounting system with 3/4 in thick mahogony stringers mounted up against the main inner stringers, with cross supports to make the gas tank cover not flex. The Tahoe I looked over at the boat show had some major flex over the gas tank area.

 

[oops!]

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and bainey.......

if the "insurance man" is going with the loose gas tank.....that means....no insurance coverage............it will be a manufactures defect and therefore not an insurable item.......

but that is good.....as then the manufacturer has evidence it is a warranty issue........

stick with the new hull idea.......stand your ground......


then get a chris craft...!!!!!

has anyone seen the new chris craft's?????....oh my gosh......talk about quality......and big bucks

 

[TheWoodCrafter]

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I hope if it is determined that it was the tank that it is still under warranty.

It may not be!!
Isn't the boat over 1 year old now?

 

[LeftFeild]

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.........ohh what a web we all weave........If indeed it was inferior workmanship does that really make any difference.
Aka have the party responsible sign on any future liability issues and be done with it... No signing on...simple chit contact your local attourney general. As a consumer all you want is peace of mind and if no professional can provide that ....well it sounds like that hull is unsalavgeable...case closed..

By the way that is what a warranty implies...PEACE OF MIND...

 

[jay_merrill]

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If they come to you and say, " we think its a loose fuel tank problem and that shouldn't have happened and we're going to replace your boat," then all is well. If not, to me it is "hammer time" (anyone remember MC Hammer?) - start shopping attorneys!

One more point ... I have read all the posts about getting the insurance involved in this as if they are going to solve the problem. They will solve the problem, indeed, but don't expect them to do so for your benefit. They have one concern and one concern only - minimizing or eliminating financial impact to themselves. Be as wary of their agenda as you are of Tahoe's.

 

[John_S]

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Is the insurance inspector a qualified Marine Surveyer? Sounds like he may not be (probably just an auto guy filling in), and just being led down a path by BPS. IMHO, you still need to hire a Marine Surveyer that will be representing you, not the insurance company, BPS, or Tahoe.

 

[cbavier]

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Is the insurance inspector a qualified Marine Surveyer? Sounds like he may not be (probably just an auto guy filling in), and just being led down a path by BPS. IMHO, you still need to hire a Marine Surveyer that will be representing you, not the insurance company, BPS, or Tahoe.

Amen, wait until you hear from the Insurance guy. If the results are not satisfactory to you. Hire YOUR OWN Surveyor, He will work for you. Just type Marine Surveyors into Google for a list of Surveyors in your area.

 

[bradleeson]

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To me it seems absolutely crazy for a company to screw around like this. With understanding in the business world, this is just stupid of the company's involved. Furthermore, you spent BIG MONEY for this boat, and you should be able to be on the water with your family having fun with what you paid for!

Just hoping for the best here.

 

[erikgreen]

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Ditto on getting your own survey done.

Right now you have the advice of a few dozen talented amateurs on what's wrong, and they only looked at pictures.

If worst comes to worst and you have to go to court on this, a full record of a survey by a licensed, bonded surveyor will go a much longer way than your personal snapshots. Think of it as good insurance.

A fuel tank if full moving around between two very poorly secured stringers in heavy (3-5 foot) waves *might* be able to cause the problems in the pics... but probably the captain would be showing some wear too

In any case for the damage to happen the fuel tank mounts would have to be crap, along with the stringer construction, and as people have pointed out lousy glasswork. All in all stuff you don't expect on a new boat.

Once they come back and admit fault (which they should) I recommend you push for a new boat or (even better) your money back. Technically this is fixable, but given what people here have pulled off a boat has to be a smoking pile of ash before it's truly not fixable.

The problem with them repairing this boat is that they won't do a good job... factories generally remanufacture, not repair..... and you already have evidence that glasswork on the boat is crap. Do you want to have them repair the parts that are broken, then once your warranty expires have the rest of the boat come apart?


Erik

 

[fishrdan]

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Wow, what a read. I'm from Vegas too and was considering a Tahoe,,, NOT anymore.

I've been out on Mead and Mohave in 4-6' seas, wonder how that Tahoe would fair in those conditions? Big wave opens the bow separation, huge amounts of water drive through the hole, bilge pump can't keep up, motor floods and dies. Now your in a real pickle, a sinking boat in heavy seas with no power People have died at these lakes because they were caught in bad conditions, scarry!

I hope BPS and Tracker/Tahoe get things going for you. This looks like a MAJOR defect, (something that doesn't happen often) time for them to suck it up and do the right thing...