shooting down a spy satellite

qaztwo

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Are they going to shoot that down today or thursday, if so does anyone know if there going to televise it.
 

i386

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Tonight I think. I'm just spit balling here but I would think it would be trivial to arm satellites with self destruct devices that can be activated remotely for cases such as this. It makes me wonder if this isn't really just to show other countries that we can shoot down a satellite. I sure hope we don't miss. I think it's pretty impressive to be able to hit a target that's in orbit. I don't recall ever hearing about us doing that before.
 

tommays

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It is compleatly DEAD which makes it hard to self destruct ;)


I would think they would keep it secert until it worked as if they miss it would be a big setback for missle defence






Tommays
 

RubberFrog

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They are shooting it down because it's projected path for deorbit is right onto China. They don't want to give the Chinese technology, when the chinese could just as easily steal it.
 

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They are shooting it down because it's projected path for deorbit is right onto China. They don't want to give the Chinese technology, when the chinese could just as easily steal it.

Most of the internals are probably made in China anyway. But the hydrazine threat is certainly a red herring.
 

qaztwo

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I can see them waiting to show it I just thought it would be neat to watch.
 

turfman

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They are shooting it down because it's projected path for deorbit is right onto China. They don't want to give the Chinese technology, when the chinese could just as easily steal it.

Am I the only one who wants to see the thing crash into china?
 
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I heard it wasnt made to be able to re inter the atmosphere so it would for sure burn up.(doesnt have a layer of heat tiles on it) They dont have to shoot it down to protect the technology. What pieces of charcoal does hit the earth is useless.......Its just another fake reason to spend money.
 

SpinnerBait_Nut

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It's the toxic fuel(hydrazine) that they worry about.
 

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Does anyone think the hydrazine tank would survive reentry?

If it works, film at eleven. If not, well. . . .never mind.
 

bekosh

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Why wouldnt that fuel burn up upon reentry.:confused:
The fuel tanks would normally be heated to keep the fuel liquid. But when it lost power..... Well, the hydrazine is now frozen into a solid chunk of ice and they are worried that it wouldn't all burn up.
 
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SpinnerBait_Nut

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The fuel tanks would normally be heated to keep the fuel liquid. But when it lost power..... Well, the hydrazine is now frozen into a solid chunk of ice and they are worried that it wouldn't all burn up.
What he said^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 

oops!

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every one just make sure they wear thier hard hats for the next few days.....



hey..wait a minit .just thinking out loud here.....could it be they actually allready did it???

yesterday morning ....a large burning object was seen streaking across the north eastern areas of washington state.....reports came in from oregon, montana and canada as well.

sonic booms were recorded and homes shook...an impact and explosion was seen by many people.....a large fire ball and the explosion lit up the morning sky......they called it a meterorite

hmmmmmmm
 

Bob_VT

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Oh heck....... I'll do it! Just get me close enough and my 45-70 will take it down...... I just need the driver to hold it steady when I roll down the window. Just like deer hunting!! :D
 

SgtMaj

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Here's why we're shooting it down... because China shot down one of our old weather satelites not too long ago. Why does that matter? Well ordinarily it wouldn't. In fact if it were Germany, or even Iran, it wouldn't. But we don't have a standing nuclear policy with those countries. We do with China, because if we ever have to go to war with China, if we fight it out on the ground, we'd lose 100,000 plus of our own soldiers to win (and we would still win, despite what people say, our high kill ratios make that possible, even against their million man army, which now has a little less than a million men. But the cost would be more than we would want bear). Instead, we would use our primary strike nuclear capabilities. Now of course there is one major problem that, and I'm sure you've already thought of it, but here it is in case you hadn't... If we nuke them, they will attempt to nuke us, because they also have primary strike capabilities (although they don't have secondary strike capabilities like we do, even in a best case scenario, it is likely that they could still launch up to 35 ICBM's after being hit). Now that would normally make it completely absurd to consider such a policy, right? Right. Enter SDI. Now those of you who think we spent 5 trillion dollars on SDI and got nothing for it, you can just sit this one out. In case you're too young or too old to know what SDI is, that's our missile defense system. Now since our SDI could easily handle shooting down all of their ICBM's (let alone the few they could launch after being struck, that makes the nuclear option viable again. Still paying attention?

Ok, now since our SDI relies on the use of satelites to track the ICBM's, if China has the ability to thwart our SDI capabilities by shooting down our satelites, then once again the nuclear option is off the table. Still with me? But, in order for China to shoot down one of our satelites, they had to use their own satelites to precisely track the satelite that they shot down. So there it is... we have to show that we have the capabilty to shoot down their satelites before they can disable our SDI which puts the nuclear option back on the table and assures that they won't pursue any type of war against the US.

... and you thought world politics was boring ...

SgtMaj
 

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Keep it in line and friendly
 

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rolmops

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It was president Reagan who ordered a missile shot down with another missile during his promotion of the "star wars" program.Years later it turned out that the missile that was to have been shot down did in fact have a self destruct and it exploded by activating the self destruct.
I do think that this might be a highly publicized repetition of the same bluff.
 

BoatBuoy

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Just now heard on the news the the Pentagon says the primary reason for shooting down the satellite is to destroy sensitive technology. Hydrazine is secondary in their concern.
 
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