dies after 20 seconds of running, wont restart

turbocorrado

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1997 merc 4.3 - recently took this motor out of my old boat and put it in this one... went from a shitty tks setup on the last boat to a regular electric choke on this one. doing its first fire in this boat. boat fires up and runs great but idles high ( havent set idle yet with this whole new setup) after about 20 seconds it shuts off and wont restart. if i pump the throttle to full throttle 1 time it will refire for a second or 2 and die right off again. giving it constant gas while cranking just makes it pop out the carb. its done this 3 days in a row, only had time to check after work so im not sure how long it takes before it will restart again... im gonna go try again in about 20 minutes.
i ruled out the fuel pump, its the pump from my other boat that worked, you can hear when its running, and when it stalls out you can still hear the pump running. i also bypassed the oil pressure switch which made the pump kick on instantly and it still wouldnt start with that bypassed
if i pump the carb by hand i can see it shooting gas, so the bowl isnt being ran dry.

things that may be significant but i really dont think they are:
-the original fuel pump was dead, so i retrofitted the one from my other boat. they are both low pressure pumps, i just cut off the original connector and soldered on the one for the new pump - as stated it works fine and i jumped it and pumped 5 gallons out of the tank with no issues.
-the original oil pressure switch was corroded and broken, so i took the one from my tks setup, once again all i had to do was solder on the new connector and it appears to be working fine as well

these 2 wires are the only ones not connected. the purple one i assume is for setting timing, and im not sure about the black one. it wasnt connected to anything on the bad motor when i pulled it.

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Black is ground
Purple is key switch ON 12V

With key ON after it dies do you have 12V at the coil?
 

turbocorrado

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Black is ground
Purple is key switch ON 12V

With key ON after it dies do you have 12V at the coil?

was actually waiting on the wife to get home with batteries for my multi meter to check this.

just got back in, dont have voltage across the coil, but if i go from coil positive to the ground in the pic i posted above i get 12v, so it looks like the coils ground is bad
 

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did some more digging, found that i missed the harness ground on the back of the engine when hooking up all the grounds back there. its getting late and my daughter is in bed so i cant try and run it again, so il hook up the ground and run it again the next possible day
 

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was actually waiting on the wife to get home with batteries for my multi meter to check this.

just got back in, dont have voltage across the coil, but if i go from coil positive to the ground in the pic i posted above i get 12v, so it looks like the coils ground is bad

Not really, The negative side of the coil is only grounded when its time for a plug to fire, otherwise its open. The negative side of the coil goes to the tach, shift interrupter (for Alpha drives) and distributor. While the ground might be the issue, it might also be a bad connection or key switch.

Need to find out if the 12V goes away once started

Also see if the carb is flooding
 

turbocorrado

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Not really, The negative side of the coil is only grounded when its time for a plug to fire, otherwise its open. The negative side of the coil goes to the tach, shift interrupter (for Alpha drives) and distributor. While the ground might be the issue, it might also be a bad connection or key switch.

Need to find out if the 12V goes away once started

Also see if the carb is flooding

yeah i realized this after i posted, complete brain fart. and connecting that ground did nothing

turns out the carb was flooding, throttle valves/plates are worn out..guess thats why it was $25. i still have my carb from my last boat with the tks setup, i bolted it up and it ran perfect, since this was a free fix i just wired the tks enrichment valve to the electric choke wires and it seems to be working.just fine, the valve is closing in its 6-10 minute window and rpms drop down... i set the timing on it tonight
 
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