Impact of adding a subwoofer

[magster65]

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Zmoz - This is ridiculous. What's wrong with you? Why are you insisting that catfan is some sort of inconsiderate jerk because he asked a question about his stereo? How can someone make that assumption? I think if you read his reply to your accusation, he stated that he wasn't the person you describe nor is his first mate (wifey). Also, after rereading this thread I think we all know who the jerk is here don't we? Who's that you say? I'll give you some clues... it starts with a Z and ends with a z. There's an m and an o in the middle. Please post another message if you're so stupid that you can't figure out who it is. Go take a happy pill... or two!

 

[catfan95]

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As a final note; ZmOZ you seem to very a very angry person who enjoys fighting with others on the board. I hope you find a way to harness your aggression. Maybe a nice day on the water with some soft music playing would help calm your inner beast.

 

[chuck216]

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I also saw that if anyone post a question about a stereo Zmoz is the first one to say something negative about tunes on the water.what a jerk

 

[ZmOz]

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Originally posted by magster65:<br />Why are you insisting that catfan is some sort of inconsiderate jerk because he asked a question about his stereo?

Because the vast majority of people with high wattage stereos are just that. Whether it's in a boat, car, truck, or any other type of vehicle.<br /><br />I have no way of knowing that he hasn't got the slightest idea how much power a low volume stereo really uses. Up until a few minutes ago, all of his posts were about draining an entire battery in 45 minutes. If that was the case, then he was in fact being an inconsiderate jerk. When he says he listens to it quietly and in the same post worries about running his batteries dead, there is a conflict there. Low volume does not equal dead batteries, that is the answer to his question which I gave many times.<br /><br />

Originally posted by magster65:<br />Also, after rereading this thread I think we all know who the jerk is here don't we?

You must have reading comprehension issues. Go back and read it again, you'll see there are a bunch of people that agree with me. Of course I'm the only one that's a jerk. Aren't you the one who posted multiple worthless trolls over this?

 

[ZmOz]

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Originally posted by chuck216:<br /> I also saw that if anyone post a question about a stereo Zmoz is the first one to say something negative about tunes on the water.what a jerk

Go back and read the first reply to this post. It wasn't mine.

 

[chuck216]

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I done with you. Your just a pain!!

 

[Mod2]

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And this thread is a pain.

 

[imported_darren2569]

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At 1000w, you'll be pulling about 80 amps from the battery. However, if your Amp says its 1000w, thats the peak rating, Your RMS will be half that or less depending on the brand of amp you have, so it would probably be safe to assume a draw of around 40amps.

I know in my car I can run my 800w amp (400 RMS) for at least 2 hours with no problem.

 

[bandit86]

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I'm too lazy to read through most of this. Get the sub you want, I could run two 12" subs at the drive in with a 300rms amp turned way up for 2 hours no prob, probably 5 hours if I listen to music at a reasonable level. You should definately get a second battery and an isolator and only run your stereo of the second battery. Having said that, Please do be corteous to others, I cpould chocke these stupid kids in honda civics giving me migranes at redlights with their stereos blaring, dont be an idiot on the water. I also had a swith so I could turn my subs on and off as I chose.

 

[Speedwagon]

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Since this thread got opened up again after the new board....

Subwoofers are made for a reason. That reason is to play the low frequencies that a midbass driver cannot play. The addition of subwoofers has made it possible for people to hear the FULL RANGE of music, as it was intended. This includes music like jazz and classical, which sometimes has a surprising amount of bass in it.

Having a subwoofer doesn't automatically make someone a nuisance. Just think of how unmoved you might be if the movie theater didn't have such devices. Those explosion scenes would be rather dull and dreary, without that added kick of bass to it.

And I think it's ridiculous of some of you people to accuse someone of something, without any first hand knowledge. You might as well be saying something like "It's not his fault, the gun made him kill that guy!" Simply ridiculous.

As for current draw, low volume doesn't drain much current. For maximum current draw, add up all the fuses that are on the amp. That is the MAXIMUM possible current draw that the amp could pull from the battery. And you are well advised to add a second battery for the stereo operation, if you run it with the engine off. But at medium volume, you should be able to last at least an hour on a battery, and still be able to start the boat.

Oh, and why are some of you trying to point fingers?

 

[MrBigStuff]

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>Having a subwoofer doesn't automatically make someone a nuisance

The problem is unavoidable. If you run a subwoofer, the low frequency sound will carry way further than you probably intend. You can't avoid the immutable laws of physics here. High power stereos with mostly treble will not carry as far as a lower powered one with a subwoofer, especially on the water.

It's not like the majority of people haven't been exposed to this and don't understand the problem. You can hear subwoofers in cars great distances before they even get close. The problem is so prevalent in automobiles they're passing laws to limit it. Being on the water with nothing to dampen the sound only amplifies the effect. Who do you think you're trying to kid? I think someone else put it well- the person doing the playing thinks they are the "man" when in fact, it is often the opposite.

You have the right to listen to your music anyway you like in your own private world. Once you enter a public area, you're subjecting everyone to your entertainment and they may not feel the same as you.

Count me among those who'd prefer not to hear the thumping sound of your subwoofer no matter where our paths cross.

Just another example of the "me" generation IMO.

 

[Speedwagon]

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You can hear subwoofers in cars great distances before they even get close.

Only when they are turned way up. At a moderate volume, you can't hear them coming down the street. Or maybe you have xray vision, and can see every car that passes you by on the street, and KNOW that they have a subwoofer or not?

 

[rottenray6402]

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I think Catfan got caught in a cross fire here and is taking the heat for all of the loud obnoxious jerks that we all encounter on daily basis. Possibly he really does not blast his music on the water but it is very suspect wanting a system with that much power. I have never figured out why some people think I like the same kind of music they do and I think that the buzz over this post has more to do with the overall lack of courtesy displayed every where you look. So I'm with JB, please stay away from my fishing holes also.:|

 

[Gone]

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How many times has this horse died??

 

[MrBigStuff]

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>Only when they are turned way up. At a moderate volume, you can't hear them coming down the street. Or maybe you have xray vision, and can see every car that passes you by on the street, and KNOW that they have a subwoofer or not?

Perhaps the subtlety of the point was lost on you. You can hear the bass from a very long distance. Way before you ever hear any other sounds eminating from, or being produced by, the vehicle.

 

[AquanutZ]

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catfan95, im that guy that guy in the honda that everyone hates 2 stop at the stop light by ,i know alot about systems, 2 amps on one battery 45 minutes its cutting it kinda close, just do what i do put a switch on the remote wire(little blue wire that goes to the amp) so you can cut off the amp when you parked near fhishermen or anyone who just dont enjoy music or you wanna save your battery.thats how i hooked up my cusins boat. but then again no one gos to havasu to relax they go to have fun and party.

 

[postjim508]

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Just a thought.

I drove my 16 Y.O.'s Isuzu Rodeo the other day. I don't know the technical stuff about all his stereo equipment but its a bunch of it.

My Music (Blugrass and Americana) sounded pretty darned good with the extra bass and stuff when played at a reasonable volume.

I'm going to put a sub and some nice speakers on my pontoon boat and I have no intention of blasting my music for others to hear.

Old fart with an old pontoon who likes music.

 

[fishingman220]

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Some places in this country have areas where loud boats and loud stereos is the cool thing to do. You pull up to a beach in a cove and listening to music and looking at all the custom boats is what you do. every weekend is a boat show. you shouldnt think that every one is like you. we have a cove where everyone goes to and thats where we stay until we go home. no one fishes there, and if you dont like it there then dont go there. the majority of people who go in there know what they are getting into. I would think people in this forum would be here to help. but i guess they are to narrow minded to understand there are different types of boaters. we are respectful of others when we leave the cove, yes we have loud exhaust, and loud stereos, but i guess that just makes us bad boaters.

 

[TerryMSU]

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A couple of pieces of info on "loud stereos". I personally run a low power stereo on my fishing boat as a way to relax. I do not crank my stereo unless the boat is loud enough to require it. (By the way, I have a 40 HP evenrude 2 stroke).

As far as the over-loud idiots in the cheap cars, it is the distortion that is agravating. Clean, clear base is not nearly so agravating. That is one reason to go for a high power sub-woofer. It has much less distortion at the same power output level, therefore much less agravation.

That said, we all need to be courteous of the others on the water, in the water, and near the water. I used to have a home on the lake, and it would REALLY PO me if a loud cranking amp pulled up near my dock. Just like it would PO me if a loud boat or jet-ski ran right past my dock as I was putting down my daughter for a nap.

TerryMSU

 

[Silvertip]

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Geez I love this. And people get mad at me for just "suggesting" that they buy a sevice manual for their outboard or I/O if they intend to work on it themselves. Clarity and Frequency Response are often confused as meaning the same thing. If that were true, there would be no reason to have bass and treble controls or an equalizer on any stereo. Those controls allow you to tailor the sound to your liking. If you happen to have a weak spot in your hearing at 10 KHz for example, you can bump the equilizer or treble to compensate for that. But it is the frequency response of that system that ultimately determines sound quality (or clarity if you will). A 2000 watt stereo system with 15% distortion will still sound like music being played under water. A 50 watt system with less than 1% distortion makes better sound (as in better and more faithful reproduction of the original performance). Power merely provides more sound -- not necessarily better sound. Besides most so called music that requires a huge sub woofer merely sounds like thump, thump, thumpity, thump. That's not music. It is noise. Bach and Bethoven played music and it didn't require 2000 watts to enjoy it.