Impact of adding a subwoofer

[nagasama]

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also by the way catfan man, my own personal opinion...<br />i dont think i would let a stereo shop get near my boat and do anything with the electrical.<br />if someone works on me boat (mostly it's me), i want them to work only on boats.<br />if you need a shop to install the battery, switch, isolater etc. maybe you should consider allowing your local shop do it.<br />if you are not comfortable installing (or changing over, if you will) the wiring of your stereo, THEN take it to an audio store.<br />but i don't know if i'd let those fellas do any electrical work on a boat.<br />peace.

 

[DJ]

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I'll second Zipzach's advice, noted below. The battery isolator is a must when you have high draw accesories.<br /><br />

Catfan95, The guys gripe because there are alot of inconsiderate people that are on the water, wether it is careless riding of a pwc, a loud stereo or a drunk a$$ boater. With that being said, I also have a 1200 watt amp and Kicker speakers and sub on my boat. I have a seperate battery (group 27) that runs the stereo and amp only. I bought an isolator/combiner at bass pro that charges both batteries after the primary battery is full. It was extremely easy to install and I don't have to worry about a dead starting battery. <br /><br />Listen to your new stereo responsibly and respect your fellow boaters and we can all get along just fine.<br /><br />

 

[ZmOz]

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The bottom line is, if you drain an entire battery in half an hour with your stereo, the entire lake can hear you and the entire lake wants to drown you. Make whatever stupid "clarity" excuse you want, if you're burning that much electricity you are creating an enormous amount of uneccessary noise. It's simple physics...that energy has to go somewhere.<br /><br />If you've got it turned down low enough so as to not **** off everyone within a mile then your battery will not be dead and that is the answer to your question.

 

[magster65]

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How loud is your old 2 stroke merc outboard?<br />Your avatar looks like you're going pretty fast in a narrow passage. That's considerate? I don't want to get into a pp match with ya' but really... this thread is about batteries and voltage. Your meaningless drivel about loud stereos should be directed at the people that offend you, not toward someone on a boat forum that's asked for your advice.<br />Nice attempt at a highjack though.

 

[ZmOz]

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Originally posted by magster65:<br /> How loud is your old 2 stroke merc outboard?

It's very quiet considering the exhaust is under water. The difference is any noise it does make is necessary to boating, ridiculous stereos are not.<br /><br />

Originally posted by magster65:<br />Your avatar looks like you're going pretty fast in a narrow passage. That's considerate?

The picture in my avatar was taken on a very wide section of a river in an industrial area - where the noise from paper mills and farm equipment drown out all boating sounds. The speed I was going is very considerate, considering it's a high traffic area, if I was going any slower my wake would be bigger.<br /><br />

Originally posted by magster65:<br />this thread is about batteries and voltage. Your meaningless drivel about loud stereos should be directed at the people that offend you, not toward someone on a boat forum that's asked for your advice.

I am far from the only one here with this point of view. Everyone with such a stereo installed in their boat offends me. As JB so perfectly put it, "you have come to a tent meeting of revivalists to ask how to pick up underage girls". We're not giving good advice because the majority of the people here totally despise everything about it. And I did answer the question - if it's low enough not to **** everyone off like catfan95 claims it will be, then he will have no battery problems.<br /><br />Even you said "My duddy's 4000 watt Clarion was good for about 1/2 hour (tops) before he needed a jump start. Nobody would give him one"<br />So you must understand that the only purpose for such a stereo is to **** off the lake.

 

[ffffg]

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amp with both chanels put into one chanel,(crossed?),,number 8 wire, and big capaciter is standard equipment on my sons car.. but that wont help power loss..he can kill the battery with lights on while driving without the cap... make sure your start/ bilge battery and music battery have no contact for saftey sake.. on the water with no power can be very dangerous, you wont be able to keep bow into big waves, that can come up in minutes.. your transom even on a very big boat can be quite low... dont let these old grumps get to you, as you see they do plenty to tick people off, and they dont loose any sleep over it... .. id rather run into you on the lake anyday than one of these crumrudgens.. dave.

 

[Ripfence]

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I'll chime in, I would recommend that you have a second batter dedicated to your stereo system, that sub amp will draw a lot of power. I also suggest that you buy an amp built for subwoofers rather than just a powerful amp that you intend to bridge for mono use. The reason is that most dedicated sub amps these days are Class D amps and tend to use less power than the Class A/B full range amps.<br /><br />Let me also add, after around 11am the lakes around here are anything but quiet. You have 600HP racing boats charging around, hundreds of PWC buzzing here and there, tremendous coal barges chugging along not to mention a lake full of bass fisherman zipping along at MACH speed with their 250 HP outboards. Add to this a sounds of nearby highways and you have a noise din so loud that I doubt you'd be able to pick up the sound of a marine stereo system. Your mileage may vary.

 

[waterinthefuel]

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By all means, if your true intentions are to just play it to "sound good" and not to show off....only you know your true intentions....then I'd say that JB's answer is really close, but that would be at full power, which, like was said many times above, wouldn't be necessary. <br /><br />If you didn't have plans on cranking that thing up, why do you want to know it's full power amp draw?<br /><br />Just a question.

 

[magster65]

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Originally posted by ZmOz:<br />Even you said "My duddy's 4000 watt Clarion was good for about 1/2 hour (tops) before he needed a jump start. Nobody would give him one"<br />So you must understand that the only purpose for such a stereo is to **** off the lake. [/QB]

First off, I don't think the reason for the stereo is to **** off the lake... and neither do you.<br />About what I said, he's actually my buddy... duddy kinda' suits him though <br />I'm not going to go on about this. My point was everyone was jumping down the guys throat without even knowing him... everyone deserves a chance before being chastised.<br />I know it's not your 'cup of tea' but in some places around here a 4000 watt stereo is a good thing. That's where a powerful stereo should be used to it's potential, not at a popular fishing hole or in amongst families enjoying they're outing at the beach. Nobody disagrees with that.<br /><br /><br />Nuf' said.

 

[Gone]

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I'm sure that the dude in the Honda in the next lane that is rattling everyones windows for a 2 car radius has no intention of pi$$ing anyone off either. He thinks he's the envy of all around him. In his narrow world, all of his circle of friends thinks it's the schiznit. He never considers what the real world thinks until the officer writes him a ticket. Then we're old curmudgeons.<br /><br />We're just trying to help you avoid the eventual ticket and getting the attitude that everyone is against you when you are creating the enemies all by yourself.<br />Be a responsible boater/citizen.<br />The analogy of the high horsepower hot rod applies here. The hot rod has the engine visible for all to see. You know that it is fast, it has all the correct goodies, he doesn't need to prove it to you. Your sound system is hidden, the only way to show it off is to blast it, and blast you will! Don't B.S. us.

 

[catfan95]

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Thanks to those on the post that do not try to judge me without knowing me. I am a 38 year old who does not and never has listened to music loudly. I am always trying to be considerate of others to the extent that when I pass a fishing boat(s) where I have to be close enough that I may cause them disruption I slow down vs buzz by. Not many boats on my local lake are as courteous. Also, when I see trash floating I stop and pick it up and throw it away on shore. The amp was to send clean power to the speakers cause my head unit amp sucked. The sub was an attempt to get some bass (vs 'tinny' sound) while the boat was running and a kid was behind the boat. Never would I anchor up and blast the music. As a matter of fact when I am in the water I cannot even hear the music from the boat. My wife does not like loud music so the level when anchored is always just enough to hear. I hope those on this forum the have judged me and so openly shared their views are perfect soles and take care in their daily lives to be courteous and considerate of others or they are hypocrites . Good manners and respect for others should extend beyond the lake to all aspects of our life.

 

[magster65]

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<br />Amen.

 

[ZmOz]

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Originally posted by catfan95:<br />Never would I anchor up and blast the music.

And yet, your entire purpose for writing this post was to ask if your batteries will allow you to listen to music for 45 minutes with your boat off. Hmmmm....

 

[tommays]

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<br /><br />As radio free and fat sack free wakeboarders who goes to a LOT of places I can say that i here FAR MORE BIG BLOCK LOUD BOATS than loud music<br /><br /><br />Other than a dead calm wind free day which NEVER happens here The music just does not carry near as far as BIG BLOCK EXHAUST <br /><br />tommays

 

[Ripfence]

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Originally posted by ZmOz:<br />

Originally posted by catfan95:<br />Never would I anchor up and blast the music.

And yet, your entire purpose for writing this post was to ask if your batteries will allow you to listen to music for 45 minutes with your boat off. Hmmmm....

He said he would never anchor up and "blast" the music which would imply listening to it at very loud volumes. I expect he intends to anchor and listen to music just at respectable volumes.<br /><br />This weekend out on the lake, I strained to hear any music over the unbelievably loud roar of boat engines, I couldn't pickout a single note.

 

[chuck216]

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ZoMz you act your 90 years old. This guy asked a simple question and you just judged him. Do you thing that you have the right to judge him. I bet you **** people off everytime you go out on your boat with your attitude. catfan95 I with you I love to anchor out on my boat with friends and listen to some tunes and relax. To all the people that have problems with music on the water then GO HOME!!

 

[ZmOz]

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Originally posted by Ripfence:<br />which would imply listening to it at very loud volumes.

How else do you drain a battery in 45 minutes? Loud volume is the only thing that does that.<br /><br />

Originally posted by chuck216:<br />To all the people that have problems with music on the water then GO HOME!!

Exactly the kind of attitude that makes people like me want to drown people like you. <br /><br />Just remember it's people with the loud stereos that get the tickets, not me.

 

[chuck216]

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I don't get tickets, I write them!!!!

 

[catfan95]

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Feel like I need to defend myself a little more. I know little to nothing about battery life and the effects of electronics on their life and that is why I asked the question. I do like to anchor up and listen to music, at a reasonable level for 30-45 minutes at a time. I was not even aware that the volume had an impact on draw from the battery. Maybe this shows exactly how little I know. Also, when I anchor up I am usually away from others. Not sure where others spend their time on the water but our lake provides the opportunity to be away from others and have private time. I would also like to apologize for creating such a debate and getting people making insensitive remarks to others. This was not my intention when creating the post. I love to boat and would not want to turn others off of boating because I believe it is a great way to spend the day with the family. Happy boating to all.

 

[chuck216]

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well said