15 hp Gamefisher/Force 225.581501 No Spark

[bear15]

I am having problems starting my 15 hp Gamefisher 225.581501. I have cleaned & set the plugs, checked the leads, etc. but I am still not getting spark. Any suggestions?


Thanks for any consideration.

Ed

 

[jerryjerry05]

Re: 15 hp Gamefisher 225.581501 No Spark

Re: 15 hp Gamefisher 225.581501 No Spark

Year? Any other #s Profile.The #s I can't find a cross.J

 

[bear15]

Re: 15 hp Gamefisher 225.581501 No Spark

Re: 15 hp Gamefisher 225.581501 No Spark

The year is 1989.

Year? Any other #s Profile.The #s I can't find a cross.J

 

[jerryjerry05]

Re: 15 hp Gamefisher 225.581501 No Spark

Re: 15 hp Gamefisher 225.581501 No Spark

You need to remove the flywheel and clean the points.Make sure they are making good contact.
YOu might need to replace them.The parts are easy to find and replace.
Get yourself a FACTORY manual.They sell manuals here and can find stuff at the library.J

 

[bear15]

Re: 15 hp Gamefisher 225.581501 No Spark

Re: 15 hp Gamefisher 225.581501 No Spark

Thanks, but this model DOES NOT have points. Yes, I did remove the flywheel to confirm this.

Any other suggestions?

Ed

You need to remove the flywheel and clean the points.Make sure they are making good contact.
YOu might need to replace them.The parts are easy to find and replace.
Get yourself a FACTORY manual.They sell manuals here and can find stuff at the library.J

 

[fishrdan]

Re: 15 hp Gamefisher 225.581501 No Spark

Re: 15 hp Gamefisher 225.581501 No Spark

So, you are not getting any spark from either spark plug wire?

Your Gamefisher/Force has "BIM" coils so points are not used. BIM coils are known to go bad, so you could have both of them bad, if no spark from both plug wires. BIM coils are NLA so you will have to do a $150-200 CDI ignition upgrade or try to source replacements from Standard Magneto.

I went through this on my 7.5 HP Gamefisher/Force. I only had 1 bad coil and the outboard would run, though it was a dog. I did the CDI ignition upgrade, the company is called CDI.

 

[bear15]

Re: 15 hp Gamefisher 225.581501 No Spark

Re: 15 hp Gamefisher 225.581501 No Spark

Thanks for the information. I called sears and they confirmed that part # 12379 Coils are no longer available. Trying to avoid this extra expense, you don't happen to know a parts distributor that might have these still available either new or used do you?

Ed

So, you are not getting any spark from either spark plug wire?

Your Gamefisher/Force has "BIM" coils so points are not used. BIM coils are known to go bad, so you could have both of them bad, if no spark from both plug wires. BIM coils are NLA so you will have to do a $150-200 CDI ignition upgrade or try to source replacements from Standard Magneto.

I went through this on my 7.5 HP Gamefisher/Force. I only had 1 bad coil and the outboard would run, though it was a dog. I did the CDI ignition upgrade, the company is called CDI.

 

[fishrdan]

Re: 15 hp Gamefisher 225.581501 No Spark

Re: 15 hp Gamefisher 225.581501 No Spark

you don't happen to know a parts distributor that might have these still available either new or used do you?

CDI or Standard Magneto make the ignotion components

Iboats sells the CDI kit in the store, that's where I got mine.

 

[starcraftkid]

Re: 15 hp Gamefisher 225.581501 No Spark

Re: 15 hp Gamefisher 225.581501 No Spark

Those coils apparently go bad just from age. I have a 15hp 1989 Gamefisher here that was used a handful of times back in 1989 and then packed away in the garage. I dug it back out 22 years later and it has no spark. Both coils are dead. I'm not sure if its worth fixing or not for the $160 or so it'll cost.

 

[bear15]

15 hp Force/ Chrysler No Spark

15 hp Force/ Chrysler No Spark

15 hp Force/ Chrysler No Spark

This is kind of the condition ours was in, used very little, so we replaced it with the CDI coil system for $150. But, it did not solve the problem as we are still not getting any spark.

Does anyone else have any suggestions on how to solve the problem of no spark? The year of the 15hp is a 1989.

-Ed

Those coils apparently go bad just from age. I have a 15hp 1989 Gamefisher here that was used a handful of times back in 1989 and then packed away in the garage. I dug it back out 22 years later and it has no spark. Both coils are dead. I'm not sure if its worth fixing or not for the $160 or so it'll cost.

 

[fishrdan]

Re: 15 hp Force/ Chrysler No Spark

Re: 15 hp Force/ Chrysler No Spark



The CDI kit didn't solve the spark problem? It should have as it's a complete ignition system, well besides the the magnets in the flywheel. I'd check the installation again and/or call CDI and ask them. Maybe you got a bad part from CDI?

Your situation is a bit different than mine as I had a running outboard and 1 of the coils went dead, so I just installed the CDI ignition and it fired right up.

(geeze I hope this isn't it) it your dead-mans lanyard hooked up?

 

[ralphrich]

Re: 15 hp Force/ Chrysler No Spark

Re: 15 hp Force/ Chrysler No Spark

Oh boy! I have same problem.... ten horse autoelectric Chrysler '75 or '76 stored ten years...now no spark...it has a cdi unit on the engine block....Any way to test the cdi unit to see if it's bad? two small wires go to the ignition key/switch, I assume these ground or short or close the coil circuit. Could they be a factor?
I assume I'll have to pull the flywheel...I'm new to this.. The starter/generator[Alternator?] is mounted atop the flywheel, direct drive. Are there any places that tell me how to get the flywheel off? will I need special tools?
I'm reluctant to buy a manual that might only brush lightly but the subject.

Thank You in advance for your consideration and help!

 

[bear15]

Re: 15 hp Force/ Chrysler No Spark

Re: 15 hp Force/ Chrysler No Spark

We by-passed both the kill button and the lanyard hook-up switch and still no spark. I contacted CDI and they are sending us a new CDI kit. We hooked it up just as the directions stated. I hope this solves our problem. I never had one like this before. Now we wait for the new unit.

Any other ideas?????

Thanks, Ed

The CDI kit didn't solve the spark problem? It should have as it's a complete ignition system, well besides the the magnets in the flywheel. I'd check the installation again and/or call CDI and ask them. Maybe you got a bad part from CDI?

Your situation is a bit different than mine as I had a running outboard and 1 of the coils went dead, so I just installed the CDI ignition and it fired right up.

(geeze I hope this isn't it) it your dead-mans lanyard hooked up?

 

[bear15]

Re: 15 hp Force/ Chrysler No Spark

Re: 15 hp Force/ Chrysler No Spark

Found the no spark problem. iboats sent me a defective CDI kit. They sent me a second one and it solved the problem. Now I hope they credit me the cost for the first one when I mail it back to them.

Thanks for all the help.

Ed

We by-passed both the kill button and the lanyard hook-up switch and still no spark. I contacted CDI and they are sending us a new CDI kit. We hooked it up just as the directions stated. I hope this solves our problem. I never had one like this before. Now we wait for the new unit.

Any other ideas?????

Thanks, Ed