150 johnson high idle

steven88venture

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ok i have a 1995 150 johnson and i have a high idle and nothing i do changes it other than activating the shift interupt switch so could a bad power pack cause it?
 

ezeke

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Re: 150 johnson high idle

The shift interrupt switch cuts off one bank of cylinders, so that has nothing to do with the normal idle speed except when you are shifting down.

Follow the Linkage and Synchronization instructions in your service manual to get the engine to idle at 650 RPM in gear on the water.
 

steven88venture

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Re: 150 johnson high idle

well all of this is on the hose but its idling at 1800 rpm all the time and have done checked the carbs and all the throttle linkages and all that stuff. i have made sure the yellow/red wire from the starter solonoid wasnt keepin power keeping it in quick start i have grounded the white/black wire for the quickstart temp sensor plus its idling at 1800 and quick start stops at 1100. i have checked the idle adjustment screws bit it dont bring it down any and actually retarded the timing but it wouldnt come down but about 200 rpm it just acts like the timing is staying high for some reason. any help with this would be very helpfull
 

ezeke

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Re: 150 johnson high idle

What is the position of your warm-up lever while this is going on? Have you tried running with the throttle cable disconnected at the engine to determine what the static RPM is?

Have you verified the RPM with a second tachometer?
 

steven88venture

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Re: 150 johnson high idle

it dont have a throttle cable hooked up plus i can tell that it is running too high by the sound and throttle and timming is released as for as possible
 

cdoliver

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Re: 150 johnson high idle

you sure the carbs are completely closed at idle? I believe it should be close to 1100 rpms out of the water
 

reeldutch

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Re: 150 johnson high idle

Are you running on a garden hose?

without backpressure it wil idle higher.

if you are runing it in the water 1100 is to high.

might have air leak some where.

the gaskets behind the manifold are notorius to leak.
 

steven88venture

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Re: 150 johnson high idle

im sure the carbs are closed and i know it will idle a little higher on the hose but 1800 rpm is just too high oh and this motor set for like 7 years so i cleaned the carbs but was wondering if something could have happend to the power pack while setting to cause this
 

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Re: 150 johnson high idle

Engine idle speed must be set while the boat is at normal floating level in the lake. The depth of the water will create exhaust backpressure which will lower the idle rpm's. You cannot determine anything about idle speed running the engine out of the water on a garden hose. Should be around 650 rpm in gear, normal float level in the water.
 

reeldutch

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Re: 150 johnson high idle

if you running on the garden hose and coldstart the motor, you have 1800 rpm on the tach and after the engine warmed up 1100, that indicates to me that is fully normal.

with the engine warmed up shut it down and restart you will see you will only run at 1800 for a few seconds.

you really got to check the idle rpm in the water.
in gear it should be around 650/750
 

steven88venture

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Re: 150 johnson high idle

ok read wat ive posted it idles at 1800 all the time warm or cold and ive done done every thing to get it out if quick start but no change plus quick start disengages at 1100 rpm and when i start is it revs to 3 or 4000 right off then comes down to 1800 and thats where it stays
 

jonesg

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Re: 150 johnson high idle

Have you checked the ignition linkage, if its stuck advanced the throttle plates can be closed but it will idle up high.
Make sure the ignition link comes back to its stop.

try closing the throttle slowly, when the butterfly plates fully close the ignition linkage should continue moving to fully retarded position.
 

steven88venture

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Re: 150 johnson high idle

yes it completly retarding the timming by lenkage it acts like something electronically is keeping it advanced
 

reeldutch

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Re: 150 johnson high idle

if you think the timing is advanced you wil hafe to verify what it is.

is it realy advanced

check the timing
 
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