175 faststrike prop?

Ron G

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Alright put the 25 TXP on and all i can say is D#M.alright here some basics to refresh.<br />18'9" bass boat<br />10"jackplate<br />175 johnson faststrike<br />with boat level and motor level the cavation plate is 6"above very bottom of boat.<br />Fully loade for tourny full tank of gas.<br />The lake was windy and had lots of waves but still had some descent runs,so much i didnt want to back out of her.Hole shot was real good not as good as the turbo 2 but right there with it.ran 5500rpms at 63mph by speedo i forgot my gps at home.<br /> The lift on this prop just blew my mind when get on plane and start bumping the trim it feels like its shifting gears,every bump of trim you can feel the bow raise and speed pickup it was awsome,on my last run i kept bumping it up the most rooster tail i had was even with the top of the motor,i had to back out of her with all the waves a couple of times i thought i was about to take flight.It rides real good and gives good feel,it does have quite a bit of sterring toqure.going to have my partner with me today so i will know how it does with him.i think a some tinkering with this thing and it will plum fly.i can barly wait to try it on a fairly calm day with an empty boat.I would like the rpms up a little more with it.im going to work on a sheet later on with the numbers from all 3 props.
 

Dhadley

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Re: 175 faststrike prop?

Now how 'bout that??? I kinda figured you might like it.
 

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I love it Dale,the water preassure was a little low on the last run,but i think that was because i was barly in the water on top of waves.My speedo must be off because it sure felt like i was going faster than that.on my jackplate its got another plate on it that tilts the motor back on an angle and its all the way back now so when you lower the motor all the way down it is actually tucked under the boat do you think i should straighten this up or leave it?i've been running it all the way back on all the test runs i was wondering if later on it would help to start moving it.
 

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It's kinda strange that you need more negative trim on that motor. It's got more negative and positive than the non-faststrike units. But if you are not using all the positive trim at speed then it wont matter. If you need more positive, then we'll need to straighten it up.
 

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Me too...<br />I'll just add to this post since it seems Ron and myself are "in the same boat" so to speak.<br /><br />Ran the 26p Lightning. One or two people, good holeshot which suprised me for a 26p. Smooth transition all the way to wot.<br />At wot, I can trim up carefully to 62mph and have a good ride. One more bump of that button and things start coming loose at the seams. I saw 64mph once, but, short lived.<br />WOT rpm a bit low also at 5200.<br /><br />This prop reminds me of the Yamaha "M" series 25p. I don't think I could tell which was which if somebody else installed them.<br /><br />One exception. Low speed plane at 25-30mph it almost seems to be trying to blow out. OR, rather, it would just "sound" different intermitently when holding boat at a very slow speed on plane.<br /><br />Just wondering what a 24 or 25 lightning would do for the top end rpm? <br />5800-6000rpm is where I'd like to be.
 

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Brownies, a TXP may handle better because it tends to have slightly more tail lift with the bow lift. Does your boat have a lot of natural bow lift and you're using the trim to increase rpm?
 

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I don't think it's natural bow lift, but, with the lightning, yamaha m, and the high five...you can really put the bow up in the air via trim.<br /> Less trim keeps the bow down though. It just doesn't seem to "want" to ride bow high on it's own. (not sure if any of that made any sense).
 

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I don't have a 25, wish I did so we could compare. I have a 24 that's been reworked so that's not a good comparison plus I'd hate to drop that much pitch anyway.<br /><br />Does this handling issue seem to come in at about the same speed with each prop? Or same trim angle?
 

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I have hijacked Ron's thread, but, he has a mph on me, so, I'm entitled...lol.<br />Seems it's a combo platter.<br /><br />25p High five / 61-62mph is as fast as it will go trimmed all the way out.(5800rpm)...It will chine walk a bit here, but, easily controllable with steering and holding my breath.<br /><br />Yamaha M25p and Lightning 26p will both run one or two mph faster "almost" trimmed out all the way. Bump that button again and speed increases, but, boat moves quickly beyond the point of being able to control it. (both props rpm 5200).<br /> Trimming back down/in will settle things down, but, speed drops back to 61-62mph.<br /><br /> This boat with the lightning prop would easily run high 60mph with motor trimmed all the way out...in a vacuum.
 

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Brownie were getting closer.<br /> Ran last night with partner conditions was still rough,but i turned some heads :DMy blast off wasnt to good to many boats then at the last minute i said what the hell im run,got up on plane and started bumping trim,passed a 20'with a 225 optimaxed and went on by :D :D Darn near caught some of the other boats.i love this prop.<br />With partner and livewells full ran WOT 5400-5500 64mph didnt drop any with the partner,sorta surprised me,thats the fastest its been with a partner so far.i also payed alot of attention to the ride seems with all the bow lift it really makes the boat ride better even in semi-rough water.<br /> After ward everbody was wanting to see the prop and was asking what i did to the motor.
 

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And reading brownies about the bow,another thing i like about the txp you can leave bow down and still run in the 50 if the waves get to bad.still tripping off how it reacts with each bump of the trim.
 

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Very good Ron. I love the part about they wanted to know what you did to the motor.
 

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Took it out to do some pre-fishing,was real windy again good for the fish bad for me wanting to see what it'll do.had a smaller fishing buddy ran 5500rpm at wot and still 64mph little rough with the waves,noticed that i lost a little water preassure my gauge has 2 arrows and i try to keep the preassure inbetween the arrows.may have been sucking a little air while i was skipping across the waves.
 

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Alright im still running at the same height.getting use to the way it feels here and runs.i noticed yesterdaywhen i take off it throws a small rooster tail and when i get on plane going the tail stops and i can trim it all the way up with very little rooster tail.so my theory is i should be able to raise the motor on up.I got passed by a e-tec 225 :( yesterday,but i got him out of the hole it took him a little awhile to catch up and pass me.The only thing about raising the motor more is water preassure.i bet with low water input i jack this way up and it'll get me were i want to be.more testing and tweaking.
 

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Ron, we're seeing just what you are. These things can run so high that the stock water pick up cant get the water. But you're right about the theory. Everything you report indicates we can go higher.<br /><br />We'll get that 225 yet.
 

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The difference between testing and tournaments....<br />Testing is a mile or two run playing with buttons, and again, and again...backing off when things get wobbly, starting again, watching gauges...<br />Tournament is many mile run, watching the boats around you, trying to catch whoever is ahead of you, no time to pay attention to correcting the wobble, might look at a gauge or two every now and then, just GO GO GO!!!<br /><br /> Back with the Yamaha M 25p prop. (5400 RPM/63mph)...decent hole shot, little bit of wobble. <br /> I'm now headed up 1/4" up with the motor.<br />Low water pickup almost out of the question due to running this thing in lots of weeds and shallow water crud.
 

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Dale you got mail.<br /> Got beat out of the hole by 2 of the fastest boats ,but kept up with them.the motor can be raised some more going to do it soon.
 

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Alright i finally got the prop back,those that dont know the second night i was running the TXP i hit the ramp and buggered her up:%but its back .i gota a tourney tommarrow night so the boats going to be fully loaded and alot of running.i went ahead and raised it up 2 weeks ago almost a 1/4 inch the turbo 2 does not like being that high at all,we'll see how the txp likes it,and i'll try to get some good runs in before dark and post them.as long as it dosnt blow out i think were going to be flyingd:)
 

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I've seen those "bolt on nosecones" but never tried one. A couple of people I know have and they were not impressed. They had trouble keeping them on once the boat gets to a certain speed. I'd bet you're going fast enough that it might be a problem.
 
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