1950 12 hp Elto outboard exhaust question

doral1985

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I brought my fathers 1956 12 hp Elto back to life, new coils, condensors, plugs & lower seals, she seems to be running great, but my question is on the exhaust housing leg, there are 4 holes on each side for exhaust to flow out, my father was a mechanic and usually had a good reason for doing something different, he bent a thin aluminum plate and screwed it on and bent it around to cover these holes. I assume the exhaust also travels down the leg and gets expelled below water line as well, Does anyone have a idea why he would cover these exhaust holes?
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Re: 1950 12 hp Elto outboard exhaust question

Ahhhhh could be, I would think they would be below the waterline anyway pending transom heigth. Tks Admiral.
 

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Re: 1950 12 hp Elto outboard exhaust question

Actually, I don't remember any such holes as you describe. Somebody probably drilled them thinking it would go faster, but then changed their mind. The factory exhaust relief port is on one side, right below the powerhead. It really barks out that port, sounds like it means business!! That wasn't exactly known to be a "quiet" motor.
 

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Re: 1950 12 hp Elto outboard exhaust question

Yeah I have the smaller brother, and have never seen such holes. I think like Frank someone drilled them, then changed their minds :)

Filling them might look neater. Have a pic? I love that vintage Elto.
 

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Re: 1950 12 hp Elto outboard exhaust question

Guys I believe your right, they may have been drilled in it, I will get a picture for you all, Im very happy to get this old bird going,my dad and I used to cruise the lake with it when I was a kid. Im going to clean it up sand it , prime it and give her a coat for pain in the next few days. Got to get the crud out of the fuel tank too, its got a lot of floaties goin on in there plugging my inline filter.
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Re: 1950 12 hp Elto outboard exhaust question

I forgot I did have a picture, underneath the aluminum plate is the holes.
Elto 12hp twin..jpg
 

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Re: 1950 12 hp Elto outboard exhaust question

It has a 2 blade prop on it but dad had 2 3 blade props aswell, any input on which is best for this bird?
 

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Re: 1950 12 hp Elto outboard exhaust question

Yeah here is a 12hp Sea King from a fellow MLC member. Notice nothing in that location. The Sea Kings, ELTOS, all the Gale products are the same motor, just different trim and paint.

1953 12hp Sea King.jpg
 

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Re: 1950 12 hp Elto outboard exhaust question

Ok here is my exhaust vent hole pics, the small hole are where the aluminum plate was screwed to seal off the big holes.

IMAG0407.jpgIMAG0405.jpgIMAG0404.jpg
 

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Re: 1950 12 hp Elto outboard exhaust question

Yes drilled holes. Weird.
 

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Re: 1950 12 hp Elto outboard exhaust question

Ya weird for sure, any response abt a 2 blade or 3 blade prop, I got both.
 

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What sizes are they?
 

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Re: 1950 12 hp Elto outboard exhaust question

I get the impression your dad was a speed / performance oriented kind of guy. Back in those days, we all tried to make our cars go faster by removing any exhaust restrictions. Exhaust cut-outs and gutted mufflers were normal with the kids (me). I am sure he drilled those holes because he enjoyed the sound, whether it went faster or not. Probably covered them up when the neighbors called the cops. Gotta appreciate your dad, our kind of guy.

The prop depends on the boat. The 2-blade probably will be faster on a light, easy planing hull with light load. General use on "normal" boats and loads will probably do better with 3-blades. Note all the "probablys".
 

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Re: 1950 12 hp Elto outboard exhaust question

Ya he may have drilled them then decided wasnt a good idea and closed them off, I prob try the same and see how it sounds haha, k on the props, havent got a small boat for it yet, here are the pics, one is 8" brass looking very heavy the other is 8" 3 blade aluminum very light.

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Re: 1950 12 hp Elto outboard exhaust question

Yep, the 2-blade is a light-fast boat prop. The 3-blade is a semi-weedless like what came on the motor from the factory, for average use on a fishing boat.
 

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Re: 1950 12 hp Elto outboard exhaust question

Tks for reply SM, we will have to try them both when I get rigged up with my second boat (with wife approval).
 

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Re: 1950 12 hp Elto outboard exhaust question

Judging by the tank and shroud, and also by the presence and style of reverse exhaust relief slots on the forward part of the lower leg, that motor must be a 1951 or 1952. The reverse exhaust slots were eliminated on the Johnson 10, Elto / Gale 12, Evinrude Fastwin 14 after 1952.

I just picked up a 1955 Elto 5 myself this week, and a 1956 Viking 5 (Gale) in January.
 

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Re: 1950 12 hp Elto outboard exhaust question

Thats very interesting to know, the model number is 12ED10 best I could figuire was 1953 the year I was born. I like your collection of senior outboards, tks for your reply.
 

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Re: 1950 12 hp Elto outboard exhaust question

It is unfortunate that I don't have the specific Elto model #s, but a model 12D10B would be a 1951-53 Gale Buccaneer Deluxe 12-horse. Substitute the "B" on the end for a "V" and you would have a Viking, or an "E" on the end would be an Elto (e.g. 12D10E). Take a look at the chart attached, and also the cutaway of a 12D10.

A few years later OMC would offer an electric start version that would have a model # like 12DE13B (12-horse, Deluxe, Electric start, series 13 [1956 in context of model #], Buccaneer). Are you sure that your model is 12ED10, and not 12D10E? At any rate, it looks like you are probably right, it could be as late as a 1953. I am curious as to why the exhaust relief (reverse) was left in the lower unit into 1953 when both Johnson & Evinrude discontinued it as being unnecessary and perhaps needlessly complicated. Gale often utilized Johnson-Evinrude castoff parts, but given that the replacement was simpler and therefore likely cheaper to produce it is puzzling. Perhaps they were just using up stock on the Gale motors; when the new 1953-54 style lower unit was phased in that probably marked the start of the next series, the 12D11(B,V or E). That is pure speculation on my part.
 

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