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Thank you all for the great info. The 1st motor that I was looking at came with controls and the guy was noce enough to even send me a video with it trying to run. The guy called me back and backed out of the deal because after he tried to restart the gears on the bottom got jammed and he said dont want to sell it in this shape. I offered to take it of his hand fpr less money since I will have the controls. The second guy that I located the outboard at stated that he had it running on hos friends boat 15 y ago and that he is sure that it will start and can start it for me. He said that he got it started like a year ago no problem. Seems like a an outboard collector of some sort. He is asking $200 which I think is too high. I am more like willing to pay $75 to $100 specially with no controls or gas tank. I am sure that any outboard that I will buy used will need carb cleaning and rebuild, Point, Coils, Sparkplug wires, Spark Plugs, cleaning and refilling the lower unit, and an impeller if nothing else. Plus got to invest in a gas tank and a battery.