1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

ezmobee

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Up. I don't think you'll be seeing the kind of speeds necessary to blow it closed.
 

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hi Dreams. glad you're making progress. you'll want it to flip up and all the way over on to the roof of the cabin. a piano hinge would work well, but make sure it's durable enough. stainless steel or brass would work well. I suppose you could add a little latch, or catch, or something that hatch can attach to when open if you're worried, but I agree with ezmobee that it shouldn't really be an issue. it should be large enough and heavy enough to stay put while underway. but if you can get it to fly shut to due excess speed, that would be cool too ;) (not really, but kinda)
 

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Hey Dreams!! After looking at angots build i found yours and man this thing has came a far way. One thing i think would look cool is if you would sand the white wood on the sides (by the wood recently staind with the oak) down and staining it. I think that will really bring out the wood even more! also I read someone said to tint those windows, i second that!!!
 

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If you hurry up and splash this beauty, you can get in on the White Seabass bite going on right now.
 

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Hi Everybody,
Thanks to one and all for the encouragement that you have all given me today. As always my friend ezmobee thanks for your continued advice and encouragement. I know how busy you are around here and I appreciate you knowledge and assistance. (In fact; that comment goes for everybody here on iboats). Up it most definitely is.
:D
 

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Hi Kfa4303- I went to the hardware store tonight and found the piano hinges you suggested; to me they seem a little lightweight (they were brass). It seemed to bend fairly easy. I?m sure there must be a heavier grade of hinge (but at least I know what one looks like now). I do think I am going to add a catch to it (I do not think it is going to scoot across the water fast enough either?.drat);)
 

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Hey Cowboyup94:
Thanks for commenting on my thread I love to make new friends here. I agree with you and I already planned to sand those down and stain them. There is actually two boards on each side on is fairly large and runs to the deck and one that runs half way down the (gunwale?) where the throttle controls mount. Tint is going to happen also. I need to get ?her? pieced together a little more (and the trailer licensed?sigh). I read here somewhere, somebody said, I think it was a signature line ?that B.O.A.T. means? bring out another thousand?. There never seems to me to be enough money at one time to do what I want, so I always seem to be buying stuff in little amounts as I go; a gallon of crap here, a saw there, a small stack of boards ($50.00?????):eek: paint brushes by the bushel. It never ends (pardon the grumbling, I really love every minute of it).:D:D:D:D
What stain do you guys think I should use for the side boards? Light or dark, I?m leaning to light but I am always open for your suggestions.
 

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Hiya Jeromeo25;
? If you hurry up and splash this beauty, you can get in on the White Seabass bite going on right now?. Please do not remind me?it is enough to bring a tear to a man?s eyes. I think it is going to be spring before I get it anywhere near the water?sniff, sniff. I am a truck driver and my daily route takes me as far as Los Banos CA way out on the Intrstate 5. For you out of state?ers that means that if I just hop 30 or 40 minutes over a little coastal mountain range I could be in the Monterey Peninsula?Amen?ahem, er, or the SF bay in about an hour. As you start to climb that hill there is a very large reservoir and fore bay that I see daily. As it is usually very hot in the central valley and from my hot truck cab I can see the coastal fog cruising over the tops of the hills. I tell you it is positively cruel.

After this conversation I think I am going to call in sick tomorrow and go fishing off the pier....just don?t tell my wife. I do not think she would understand.;)
 

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offset hinge.jpgOk , ezmobee, I got a new question for you, I followed your link to the hinges. Looking at the offset 5? hinge. In the photo attached. With the hatch opening in the upward direction which side would be connected to the roof of the boat, and which to the hatch itself. The flat portion or the side with the angle built in? When I get them in hand I could probably figure it out but just looking at a photo it is hard for me to see.
Also would the flat plain of the hinge be on the outside of the cabin or on the inside?
Thankx
Dave
 

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Too many mental gymnastics are required for me to answer this question :p
 

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What I would do is buy the hinges and you will figure it out. Little fooling around with it and you'll get it. I recommend when installing them use a bolt not screw. put crap around the bolt to seal it. Only reason i say a bolt is because the hatch (right where you will walk in) you do not want to start off the fishing day hitting your head on a sharp screw. Also on the round stock/thread end put a cap on it that you could buy at your local hardware store of Harbor Freight.

Couldnt agree more on the spending money thing!
 

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Ezmobee, that why I asked the question. It hurt my brain too! :D:D I just get them and fool with them as cowboyup94 suggests. I actually was thinking about the bolt through the roof instead of screws also. (I know me; my forehead would find the screw each time I climbed in. I did not think of the little plastic cap a very good idea. Thank you cowboy.:D:D
Do you guys think that Gluvit would work to seal around ?bolt and screws? in fiberglass? I would like to seal the cabin and searching the archives here I found out a little about Gluvit. But it seems to me that almost everybody was putting it on aluminum boats. Does it work on fiberglass?
Also what color do you think for the side wood, light or dark?
Thanks again for your contributions to my little thread.:D:D
dave
 

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Gluvit has an etching capability which makes it work specifically well with aluminum. It would be kinda pointless for your boat. For what you want to do, some 3M 5200 would be the ticket.
 

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DSCF5908.jpg43.jpgDSCF5910.jpgDSCF5911.jpgHello everybody,
Ezmobee, (you is da? man). Ok, I?ll pull up some of the threads on 3M?s 5200. Mucho thanks for the direction to search in.
Work is slowing down a lot (I was told I could have the day off if I wanted it)?.Duh!!!! :D:D So I got to run to the hardware store and get a few little items and turn my mustang into a pickup truck again with a huge sheet of plywood. You should see the faces of the people on freeway looking at me doing 75 in a little green Mustang with a sheet of plywood on top. :eek: I am an ?old flatbed driver after all. I can tie anything and it doesn?t move.
I started the hatch today. I began by a Google search on what hatches look like, and then began to build one out of wood. Most of the photos had a sort of raised collar under the hatch so I put that into my design (That is why the hatch is raised an inch or two off the top of the boat). I guessed that this has something to do with water not pouring into the hatch in a rain).
I added another stout support beam on the starboard side (you cannot see in the photo because of the deco trim). Now the hatch is secured to both of these timbers securely. I cut triangle buttresses to help firm up the joints of the collar. I could not screw; or bolt for that matter into the plywood sandwiched between the layers of fiberglass on the roof because it was way too thin. I think that the ply sheet was about ? inch. So I added a board that will be mounted flush to the top of the roof with bolt and nuts. (It is structural piece of wood because it is what is holding the front edge of the hatch up). I could not drill the holes today because I misplaced my chuck key for my drill today,:facepalm: I do not know where I set it down. I drilled the holes for the big bolts using the screw attachment for the drill. I found if you first screw an screw in normally until it seats and then run the drill at high speed in reverse you could use the screw as a rasp or file and gouge out the hole diameter needed. That is why the other holes on the hinges are not filled with bolts and nuts. It took only a few moments to do but still a lot of extra work. I should have just gone and bought a new chuck key from the little hardware store but, honestly I did not want to stop my project and run to the store. I hate stopping in the middle of something I am doing and run to the store for a $3 dollar nothing. So next weekend I will go to my boat yard (dad?s house) with the new key in hand and mount the front ?footer board?. I then stained the thing, 2 coats; the darker stain Sedona Red by Minwax. Next week I will coat it with the Spar Urethane and get it to really shine. Hinges work goodly and the hatch folds all the way back to the roof when fully opened. I need to get some sort of latch to be able ?batten down the hatches?. Sorry I always wanted to say that. I could not find the proper length bolts that were solid enough to securely hold the hatch. I ended up getting the diameter bolt I wanted but about 2 inches long. After I put the bolts on I cut the tips off with the sawzall. I bought the little plastic bolt covers and I will cover the bolts after the urethane is installed.
That?s about it. Have a nice weekend everybody.:D:D
Photos were taken at dusk. all the wood is the same color (looks very dark in photos)
 

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get a few strips of like a rubbery strip and make a gasket for a tighter seal around your hatch. Kinda like you would do on a wood stove or something...
 

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Good idea Cowboy, thank you I shall. How thick do you think it should be?
Have a great night.
 

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I think I would have used an offset cabinet door style hinge on the inside, or even a piano hinge, by using only 1/2 of the hinge on the frame your losing a lot of its strength. Also leaving those hinges exposed like that to the weather will cause a premature failure in the hinge, they are not designed for exterior use, by putting them on the interior of the hatch, they are better protected. Also, not trying to sound rude by any means, those hinges just don't do the hatch any justice visually
 

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Thanks for chiming in JDA1975. I do not consider what you said as rude. As I have said all along I have never ?built? anything before. I did not know that hinges could be put inside. And to tell you the truth I do not particularly like the way they look on it either. I was planning to work more on the hatch hopefully this week sometime or at the latest this coming weekend so I will pop them off and see what I can do.
 

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Good idea Cowboy, thank you I shall. How thick do you think it should be?
Have a great night.

Well if you can measure and look to see if you have a gap what ever the measurement is add 3/16s of an inch to that. If you have no gap i think 3/16 or 1/4 I have a few links but I am sure it will be cheaper in Hdepot, Lowes, Hfreight, or Ace...

http://www.google.com/products/cata...=6mybTvXpDajr0gHZ08SpBA&sqi=2&ved=0CEkQ8wIwAg#

http://www.google.com/products/cata...a=X&ei=WG2bTvOLMKbu0gHMyMy_BA&ved=0CEoQ8wIwAg#
 
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