1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

[boatnut74]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

I've heard good things about those 6.4 diesels. Not so much on the 6.0 though, you lucked out. It should pull the Glasscat no problem

 

[Cowboyup94]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

I wonder the last time the glow plugs were changed in the truck.. I would highly suggest changing them.

 

[Monterey Dreams]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

Hey BN and Cowboy.
Glow Plugs are high up on the list of things to change?..
Weather was horrible today?.I did not do a thing today, (unless you count homework). Argh. On a bright note I did title to the truck today. It is a little older than I thought, 1986 F250 XLT and I was wrong on the engine. 6.9 Diesel. I took the batteries out and had them tested. Both were bad. Oh well, what?s another 200 bux?:facepalm: I replaced the fuel filter, clean diesel in the old one, good color and no crud. It did have a little funky smell. Geez, a boat restore and a truck restore to fund. Still 62 K miles on it once it is running it should putt a long for a long time. It really is a long truck. It has a full size back seat. I did not think those were around back then. And a long bed. Hope there aren?t many curves at the boat ramp.
Lower unit still marinating, I will probably have another day off this week sometime from lack of work so I will try to pry it apart then.
Good night guys.
Dave

 

[boatnut74]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

Those 6.9 were good motors to, and with only 62k it's just barely getting broke in. Hope you can get that lower unit off without it breaking, that would be a bummer.

 

[Monterey Dreams]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

Hey Boatnut,
One of my customers is a commercial parts supply shop (supplying parts to the other parts shops in town). The owner told me that if the oil bath I am doing (over a week now) does not work, he sells WD40 in a gallon liquid and I should try to soak in that. I did not know WD comes in gallon jugs. (20 bux for a gallon).
I hope the weather gets better (2 weeks with no boat work) I am getting real antsy.
Night All,
Dave

 

[boatnut74]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

Yep, they have WD40 in gallons, and probably even 55 gallon drums! Soaking it in a solvent tank would probably work also.

 

[kfa4303]

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Shoot buy a gallon of WD-40 $20 whether you need it or not. Have you priced that stuff lately? It's like $6 + for a 12oz. can :/ $20 a gallon is a no brainer. Even if you don't need it all now, you'll find uses for it in due time. I don't think there's anything it can't do. There's a thread here in the forums that list 1001 uses for it. Sorry about the weather. Keep us posted! Net little factoid alert: Apparently, the reason WD-40 is getting more expensive, while other petrol based products are not, is because one of the main/magic/mystery ingredients in WD-40 is actually Fish Oil (not sure of the species), rather than petroleum. As a result, its price doesn't fluctuate with oil prices, but is more closely tied to fish sticks, which are plummeting around the world, thereby increasing the price of our much beloved WD-40 :/ Still great stuff though.

 

[Cowboyup94]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

Shoot buy a gallon of WD-40 $20 whether you need it or not. Have you priced that stuff lately? It's like $6 + for a 12oz. can :/ $20 a gallon is a no brainer. Even if you don't need it all now, you'll find uses for it in due time. I don't think there's anything it can't do. There's a thread here in the forums that list 1001 uses for it. Sorry about the weather. Keep us posted! Net little factoid alert: Apparently, the reason WD-40 is getting more expensive, while other petrol based products are not, is because one of the main/magic/mystery ingredients in WD-40 is actually Fish Oil (not sure of the species), rather than petroleum. As a result, its price doesn't fluctuate with oil prices, but is more closely tied to fish sticks, which are plummeting around the world, thereby increasing the price of our much beloved WD-40 :/ Still great stuff though.

20 dollars for yall. Free for me! Love having a grandfather who knows what napa throws out

 

[kfa4303]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

dang! I want NAPA trash too. Shoot they even sell Sierra parts there! There might be some carb kits in that refuse. LOL!

 

[Monterey Dreams]

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Hello guys,
Well I had the day off yesterday and I spent hours pounding on the lower unit. The oil bath helped a little I was able to free up one bolt because one side up near the front of the “bullet” is loose. The rear portion where the prop shaft is still stuck (it was not in the oil). I also bought a bottle of CLR (you would not believe the amount of junk that stuff took off). I can lightly stick a pocket knife blade through the front portion now so I am sure it is freeing up. My friend told me not to pry because that is a seal and water will get in to the gears (sooo no prying just a lot of pounding).
Sunday I am going back out there so hopefully it will be lubed by then enough to break free. I am going to get the WD. It seemed like a good price to me.
Dave

 

[Monterey Dreams]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

Hi everybody,
I did not get much accomplished this weekend. I spent many hours pounding on the lower unit again. I finally got it to break free and once I got it to lower about 2 inches or so I ran over to my friend?s house where we pounded on it again for a little while. In the end we decided to cut the bolt. (That was what the Seloc recommended) one bolt was already broken. It appears that the PO had cut the bolts and then glued them back together somehow. The bolt was very smooth and he said he never seen a bolt that broke that cleanly. We then put the skag in the vice and took the bolts out of the bearing cap and attempted to remove it. Here we go again, it would not budge. The Seloc was not very clear it said to tap with a chisel and mallet until it popped off. We hammered and pounded and then took the propane torch and heated it until it was very hot. It would not come apart. My buddy told me to get online and ask my geezers (LOL) if they knew why it would not release. He said it should just pop off because of the bolts but wanted to know if you guys though it should unscrew somehow. Anyways I took some photos for you all to look at what I am working with. (The plus, the pinion gear and whatever gears we can see look good with not too much wear on the teeth).
I will post a question to the Johnnyrude forum later, for the sake of completeness to my restore thread I wanted to place here first. (Besides all my friends are usually over here in this forum).
Goodnight all
Dave

 

[Monterey Dreams]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

looks like a dead porpoise to me.:facepalm:

 

[boatnut74]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

Glad to see you finally got it off. Hopefully you can get the rest of it apart without damage and get it running again.

 

[Willyclay]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

Dave, fifty years ago that gearcase head probably would "pop off" but I have always used a "puller" that uses long bolts threaded into two of the gearcase bolt holes that are 180 degress apart so you get an even pull. Something like a steering wheel puller. The trick is getting long enough bolts to extend past the prop shaft. I may have even used threaded rod but it has been a very long time since I did it last and do not remember. Sorry, but that's the "geezer factor". My manual says use a "suitable puller". The E&J forum guys will set you straight. Good luck!

 

[Monterey Dreams]

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Thanks Andrew, I hope I can get it off also. (You just going to work or coming home)?
Bill, I knew you would know what I had to do. I was going to send you a PM but I figured it was uber late where you hail from and I get to you tomorrow. The geezer comment was for you Bill; I told Seth that you were a self-proclaimed geezer! He got a kick out of it.
Thanks my friends.
Dave

 

[boatnut74]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

Thanks Andrew, I hope I can get it off also. (You just going to work or coming home)?

No work tonight actually, I'm about ready to hit the sack though.

 

[Monterey Dreams]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

Wahooo on the no work.....I got to go early so I was getting ready to sleep myself.
Good night and don’t let the bed bugs bite…..
If they do use dynamite!

 

[Monterey Dreams]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

Really quickly guys,
I called Seth today and told him what my long distance friends suggested that we use a steering wheel puller to get part off. He had “duh, (palm of hand hitting the forehead moment)”:facepalm: and told me that he is embarrassed that he did not remember that. So next later this week maybe we can try it. Hesaid he has about 6 pullers (a little overkill I think)
He told me to clean the thing up. There are two threaded holes that do not go all the way through to main piece of the lower unit. Are these the holes we should put the puller bolts in? The other 4 are all smooth with no thread.
Thanks guys,
Dave

 

[Willyclay]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

There are two threaded holes that do not go all the way through to main piece of the lower unit. Are these the holes we should put the puller bolts in? The other 4 are all smooth with no thread. Dave

Yes, use the threaded holes for the puller. You should have removed four machine screws with seals from the four holes with no threads. They connect to a "retainer plate" inside the gearcase. Seals must be replaced if you decide to rebuild it. See items 46&47 in the parts diagram at the link below:

http://www.marineengine.com/parts/v...evinrude-johnson/ITEM_3041/ITEM_304100001.htm

Sounds like you are doing great. I thought you had a "factory" manual. Good luck!

 

[Monterey Dreams]

Re: 1959 Glasscat Catamaran Project Underway.

Hi everybody,

Bill, Yes I have a Seloc book, but it is very vague in the worst places. It says do this or that, and then it don't tell you "how" to do it.

Well today is my birthday and the Lord blessed me with a very good present. I called in to work today for my start time and they told me that I got the day off (with pay) for my birthday. Then since I could not go back to sleep I started trolling craigslist. I found a guy who was selling a motor a motor about an hour and a half away. (And since I did not have anything to do so I called him up and said I’ll see you in couple of hours. When I got to his shop he is one of those guys who gets old boats and parts them out as a part time business. He had the motor set up in a test barrel, and then he hooked everything up and fired it up while I was standing there. It fired right up putts fairly well, he said that it could use a set of points and a condenser and the carb cleaned. He threw it into gear, both forward and reverse and the prop spun and everything (Wahooooooo), included in the purchase price was everything needed to mount it to the boat; Motor, solenoid box, cables, ignition wires and ignition (with keys). And control cables for transmission and throttle (WITH the silly little ends that I cannot find anywhere around my home city). The engine is small (about a 1960ish 40 hp omc super sea horse,). Top cylinder has compression of 95 and bottom 105. So I know I will not be getting up on plane, but hopefully since I have a catamaran and it sits high in the water maybe it will not be too slow. My friend Seth told me displacement speed for my boat should be about 15 mph. The guy I bought it from told me he had a 1955 Powercat back in the day and he thinks I should putt around at about 20 to 25 with this little motor, so I will hopefully be moving between 15 and 20-ish. I am really happy with this little motor because I have been really despairing of ever getting my big motor working. I mean, I have been working on it for a month and nothing at all has been really accomplished. And the weather is turning beautiful and I really want to be on the water soon. Now I can at least putt around the bay/lake this spring. Anything not completed in the cabin can be done in between trips.
Like I said I really have been upset with the motor and the lack of progress I have been able to make so now I am at least in a better position for my spring splash (that I unrealistically set as my splash goal last summer). Now it might be possible. And truly for that; I give many thanks. I left the big motor brackets mounted to the transom (hopefully I can get the big red one working, or by next year maybe I will be more financially able to purchase a more modern motor with a larger herd of Horses. For now, I am not going to look a gift Sea...horse in the mouth….(LOL).
Oh yah, I only paid one hundred for everything out the door. Do you guys think I did ok?
Dave