1968 Holiday Restoration w/pics

[e150]

Re: 1968 Holiday Restoration w/pics

Hoping you get to splash soon, Azlo. Looking forward to seeing it on the water.

 

[starcrafter65]

Re: 1968 Holiday Restoration w/pics

Azlo,

Why do you need an electric fuel pump? I don't have one and my engine fires immediately....does it help something?

Clark

 

[Azlo]

Re: 1968 Holiday Restoration w/pics

Azlo,

Why do you need an electric fuel pump? I don't have one and my engine fires immediately....does it help something?

Clark

Well this is my thought, a brand new mercruiser pump is in the hundred$ plus u have vacumm lines and other lines right. Well the electric pump is a fraction of the cost and its just the fuel lines and will have enough money to have extra on board just in case. So then I thought of rebuilding the pump but I have read some negative things on rebuilding mrecruiser pumps, not saying that it wouldnt last but electric just had to many pros than cons. As far as running performance, its all the same. I welcome any debates as im in need of coffee today.

electric vs rebuilding vs new.

 

[jasoutside]

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I welcome any debates as im in need of coffee today.

MMMMmmmmmm coffee. Dark brown nectar of life.

Hey, when you going to have this thing in the water buddy??? I don't know whats taking you so long. I should have mine all wrapped up by the weekend


Rock on bro

 

[starcrafter65]

Re: 1968 Holiday Restoration w/pics

Well this is my thought, a brand new mercruiser pump is in the hundred$ plus u have vacumm lines and other lines right. Well the electric pump is a fraction of the cost and its just the fuel lines and will have enough money to have extra on board just in case. So then I thought of rebuilding the pump but I have read some negative things on rebuilding mrecruiser pumps, not saying that it wouldnt last but electric just had to many pros than cons. As far as running performance, its all the same. I welcome any debates as im in need of coffee today.


electric vs rebuilding vs new.

So that electric is in lieu of the mechanical pump on the motor?

 

[Azlo]

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So that electric is in lieu of the mechanical pump on the motor?

Took the mechanical pump off and cap the hole. Went to autozone to buy the fuel pump cover. I mounted the eletric pump on the transom, it will be before the carb with a filter in between and the water seperator before the pump. In other words,,,,,fuel tank - water seperator - fuel pump - fuel filter - carb.

 

[Azlo]

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MMMMmmmmmm coffee. Dark brown nectar of life.

Hey, when you going to have this thing in the water buddy??? I don't know whats taking you so long. I should have mine all wrapped up by the weekend


Rock on bro

Man, yeah i need to get it going. August or the begining of september!!

THis weekend!?!?! Video man, dont forget the video.

 

[jasoutside]

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THis weekend!?!?! Video man, dont forget the video.

Yah dood! I'll have the purple dancing unicorn take some vid...

 

[Drunken Clam]

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Excellent progress Azlo, I literally spent my entire morning reading your resto-thread, awesome job, can't wait to see the finished results!

 

[Azlo]

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Good to see more progress Az... and good to hear your electrical system is close to being finished. Splashdown soon!

TII

Yeah man, electrical is not a glamoruous job, its a head buster at times. A lot of rechecking, specially when your dividing the system with 2 batts. But im almost there!!

Hoping you get to splash soon, Azlo. Looking forward to seeing it on the water.

Ill be taking request when before I take the vid. Some say do a summersalt on the lake, others break a bottle of champaign, etc.

Excellent progress Azlo, I literally spent my entire morning reading your resto-thread, awesome job, can't wait to see the finished results!

Thanks "Drunken Clam" I wish it would of taken me that long to finish this rebuilt. Thanks man, yeah i cant wait for my Tin "Everclear" to Splash.

I cant wait for all these starcraft restos to splash this year,,,,, jasoutside, im there dude.


Hmm ,,,,maybe it would be nice to have a sticky of yearly splashes.

 

[venxxxxx]

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Very cool thread. Its taking nearly 2 years and lot of painstaking work! I just read the whole thing from page 1 to 37. Thanks for sharing the experience!

 

[proshadetree]

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Alzo you know you need some good stuff for that ride leave the bubbly to the ones who cant handle the clear. Hope to see some pics soon.

 

[Azlo]

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Very cool thread. Its taking nearly 2 years and lot of painstaking work! I just read the whole thing from page 1 to 37. Thanks for sharing the experience!

Glad to share venxxxxxx as much as everybody has helped me. Thanks man. Will drink one for you.

Alzo you know you need some good stuff for that ride leave the bubbly to the ones who cant handle the clear. Hope to see some pics soon.

LOL!!! You know whats up.

 

[GLG fishing]

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I have been thinking of moving to an electrical fuel pump myself.
Lot?s of pros to that as I see it.
Just thought I would mention that you need an oil pressure switch on the power
You want the pump to be off while the motor is not running.
I think that?s in the code for boats.
Others may want to chime in if I?m off base.

GLG

 

[Azlo]

Re: 1968 Holiday Restoration w/pics

I have been thinking of moving to an electrical fuel pump myself.
Lot?s of pros to that as I see it.
Just thought I would mention that you need an oil pressure switch on the power
You want the pump to be off while the motor is not running.
I think that?s in the code for boats.
Others may want to chime in if I?m off base.

GLG

No wonder some marine pumps come with oil psi switch. But what if its hooked to the coil? Coils not on when engine is not running, right?

 

[Azlo]

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While waiting for mail, i decided it was time to bring down my boats sides (shoulders) and prep & clean them for paint.

There are some serious holes I will need to plug so i grinded the ereas that i will patch with epoxy.

Everything electrical is set except for the oil psi.gauge When i turned the engine on it was not reflecting so I will need to check that. Wire loom is also in order.

 

[GLG fishing]

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No wonder some marine pumps come with oil psi switch. But what if its hooked to the coil? Coils not on when engine is not running, right?

Well that?s not true. You can turn the key to the ?on? position and the coil will have power. I have not researched the hookup but my understanding is you need a switch that is normally open and when you have oil pressure it is closed and allows power to flow.
Like I said, I?m not 100% up on things but my guess is that you use the switch as a ground. I think the term is ground lift. Run a positive to the pump and the negative from the pump to the oil pressure switch. When you have oil pressure it completes the circuit.

Check out this link for info or do a search, as how you wire it up is very important.
You must put safety first on this hookup.
http://www.boatered.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=97399
GLG

 

[Last Mohican]

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Well that?s not true. You can turn the key to the ?on? position and the coil will have power. I have not researched the hookup but my understanding is you need a switch that is normally open and when you have oil pressure it is closed and allows power to flow.
Like I said, I?m not 100% up on things but my guess is that you use the switch as a ground. I think the term is ground lift. Run a positive to the pump and the negative from the pump to the oil pressure switch. When you have oil pressure it completes the circuit.

Check out this link for info or do a search, as how you wire it up is very important.
You must put safety first on this hookup.
http://www.boatered.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=97399
GLG

I have seen the oil pressure switch wired in the circuit as well. My question is this: If the boat sits long enough the fuel in the carb to evaporate, and you need oil pressure before the fuel pump comes on, how long to you have to crank the motor over to get it to start? The problem is going to be if the carb bowl is empty and there is no oil pressure because the motor is not running, the fuel pump will not fill the bowl. I'm sure there is a solution. Maybe a bypass switch just for startup. It would not be uncommon for the carb bowl to be dry after a week of siting. Expecially here with the texas summer heat.

once again, Good progress Az.

 

[Azlo]

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I have seen the oil pressure switch wired in the circuit as well. My question is this: If the boat sits long enough the fuel in the carb to evaporate, and you need oil pressure before the fuel pump comes on, how long to you have to crank the motor over to get it to start? The problem is going to be if the carb bowl is empty and there is no oil pressure because the motor is not running, the fuel pump will not fill the bowl. I'm sure there is a solution. Maybe a bypass switch just for startup. It would not be uncommon for the carb bowl to be dry after a week of siting. Expecially here with the texas summer heat.

once again, Good progress Az.

If I remember correctly u get about 4psi at cranking, but u would have to crank a little longer with a dry bowl ,,,wouldnt you? But if u have the pump wired to ignition this wouldnt be a problem. Turn ignition on, wait a few seconds and then crank, of course pump carb before cranking. hmmmmm

 

[Last Mohican]

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4psi of oil or fuel pressure while cranking? I was talking about oil pressure. My thought is you would have to crank quite a bit longer to build enough oil pressure to trip the switch and start the electric pump.

Personally I do not have that oil pressure switch on my fuel pump circuit. I am not sure if it is a requirement or not but it is a good safety feature. A friend of mine just recently got a VSC (Vehicle Safety Check) from the Coast Guard. He pased the VSC even though he does not have an oil pressure switch on his electric pump circuit.