1971 17' Invader Tri-Hull Restoration, The Madness Begins

Mud Puppy

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Re: 1971 17' Invader Tri-Hull Restoration, The Madness Begins

So Thanks to JB my Thread Title has been restored to what I had intended it to be all along. Like I said before, being a Cadet is rough, but you have to learn how to swim before you can learn how to glass or Gel-coat!

Never in a million years did I think at the age of 57 I would be a Cadet when It was so many years ago I was an Airman!

If everything goes well when I get home and if I have the Captain's permission, I will continue to add photos to this thread.

TTFN :joyous: See You all shortly!
 

glnbnz

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Re: 1971 17' Invader Tri-Hull Restoration, The Madness Begins

Signing on to watch the Madess :)

Good ol tri-hull restore...gotta love em :D
 

sphelps

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Requesting permission to tag along MP !
Looks as though ya got your work cut out for ya .. But it's always well mostly a fun ride bringing these boats back to life . The iboats crew members are what makes it fun !
Good luck ! SP...

Btw , I kinda like the pea soup green color ! ;)
 

Mud Puppy

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Signing on to watch the Madess :)

Good ol tri-hull restore...gotta love em :D

Glad to have you aboard Glenn! Hope I don't disappoint you (or anyone else) and hold up to the long heritage of "Professional" boat restorers as the many that hang here on iboats!
 

Mud Puppy

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SP, Glad to have you aboard as well! I look forward to many, many conversations about this ol' tub before I am done.

I have gone far enough no there is no turning abaft now!

I kinda take the term "used boat buying" loosely and relate it to renting bowling shoes; you never know if your gonna get Athlete's Foot until after you already have it!

Using the same annolgy, I got it on both feet with this one.
 

GT1000000

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Re: 1971 17' Invader Tri-Hull Restoration, The Madness Begins

hey there Mud Pup,
First of all welcome to the "Madess"
I just finished off the work week on a downer and your thread has put a smile on my face!
Thanks!
I am an old Airman myself and thoroughly appreciate where you are coming from...
This crazy road we have all decided to travel can be ridiculously frustrating and quite unforgiving at times, but the rewards are many and very long lasting...
I am definitely asking for permission to come aboard for this ride...
Best of luck and most of all, Have Fun!
GT1M:D
 

Mud Puppy

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Re: 1971 17' Invader Tri-Hull Restoration, The Madness Begins

I wanted to put this out there to possibly help someone someday. When we first started talking about overhauling the boat, I thought to myself, "I'm not even real sure what the interior of the boat is even suppose to look like". I searched the net and couldn't find much other than the information that is here on iboats. Very few pictures, very little information on the boat itself.

I forget who it was now, but I read a post early on, and the man was a genus. He had pretty much a complete history of Invader Boats. I believe it was Roscoe come to think of it and he explained the three letter manufacturer's code and how the company had changed over the years.

Where there were several manufacturing locations at one time for Invader Boats scattered across the country, there has to be several of these boats which are still very sea worthy vessels. Hopefully this is to help someone considering repairing an Invader which is not so sea worthy.

You see, all I had was a Bill of Sale; not even a Title so I had no idea of even where it was manufactured. Since then I have gotten registration information from the last state it was registered in and sent for a lost title on the trailer, but I will leave that for another post as that was an experience in itself.


One of the things I had missed early on was the transom and its rotted condition. I thought I might add some things one should look at when inspecting a boat or looking at buying a used boat.

At the stern of the boat, the hull cap is about 20" deep on this model and houses the battery on the starboard side and there was a storage compartment on the port side which also hosed the blower motor to exhaust fuel vapors out of the engine compartment. Neither was real accessible to the back to inspect the transom, but when the engine cover was raised, the transom was a little easier to look at.

So this is my spiel for this post:


Notice there are lines in the glass which run vertically along either side of the transom plate. The transom had been recovered with glass and what looks like latex paint at one time, I'm sure to clean it up and refresh the stern prior to sale by someone that specialized in cosmetics and not fixing anything.

I am pretty sure there are unscrupulous dealers out there even in the boating industry.

As I said earlier, I accidentally pulled a hunk of transom loose while pulling out the last piece of port side flooring. That is the hole in the lower left hand corner. It had appeared solid back in the dark of the storage compartment.

Here's a closer look at the inside of the boat with the engine and transom plate removed.



While I am by no means a boat expert, what was going on with the cracks was the result stress from the vibration on the engine the last few years it ran. With the rotten wood behind the glass, there was no structure left. These should have been telltale signs of bigger hidden problems.

You can always use a technique we in Aviation call a "Sonic Tap Test" to find defects in bonded assemblies and you can tell where the discrepant area starts and where it ends within thousands of an inch always, just by listening. I inspect parts aircraft parts daily using this method. :plane:
 

Mud Puppy

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Hi GT, Welcome Aboard!

We sometimes get Commercial or Corporate A/C parts in that are in pretty bad shape from abuse or neglect that look hopeless but we are able to turn them around and get those planes flying again, hope I get to the point where this will "fly" again, but with the highest temperature in two weeks being 24, I am beginning to think that I will never get her off the ground!

She's chocked and tethered just off of the garage (not on the Tarmac either) right now waiting on the tower for clearance and we will just have to wait for 'em to de-ice the runway. :)
 

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Tagging along! I like the motor...hope you dress the her up. Now go get that FOD walkdown done on the flight deck, all hands on deck :)
 

Mud Puppy

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After finding the "hollow spots" which ended up being most of the stern, I knew what had to be done. I knew that I was going to have to pull the engine and remove the transom plate and totally rebuild the transom.

To accomplish this because of the "overhang" I either needed to work on my head or remove the hull cap. After looking over the bow fore of the helm with the fuel cells removed, it looked like I would have to spend a couple days just cutting glassed tape in and around the storage areas under the front cushions. I decided to dissect the hull cap in an area just fore of the overhang at the stern. It was out in the open and easy to get to to step back the layers of the hull cap when joining them back together when I get to that point.

I tend to be like water or electrical current and take the path of least resistance (actually I'm just lazy, and have learned to take the easiest and cheapest rout, I am part Scottish so I'm tight when it comes to spending money) but have learned over the years, sometimes my shortcuts bite me in the tuchus.

So being rather good at risk taking, I decide to cut the cap as to remove everything associated with a complete hull cap removal.

Before and After pics:







The next thing I did was to remove the sterndrive unit which I built a stand for and pushed it into a corner of the garage for storage until spring.



It way easier than what I had imagined.
 
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DavidD

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I have a 72 invader hull that I bought for the trailer the 1 I have had a OMC stringer in it. The boat itself might be in a little better shape than yours but no plans to restore it lol.
 

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From the looks of mine, I think FDR was in office when mine was in good shape David! :laugh: Do you have pics posted of yours?
 

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From the looks of mine, I think FDR was in office when mine was in good shape David! :laugh: Do you have pics posted of yours?
No it was just bought for parts. When I get a chance I'll see if I can get you any useful pics of it.
 

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I too will be watching your efforts. And if you have read though a few other rebuilds then you know yours is very much like everybody else's with all the rot. I know that really doesn't help other then to let you know it is fixable and once finished, you will have a quality boat and the obvious pride to go along with it knowing you accomplished the results. I am presently refurbishing a boat motor and trailer that started over a year ago. I have the O/B finished, the trolling motor rebuilt and the trailer near finished and the boat stripped out waiting for me to start it next in the list of things to do. And it looked exactly like your rotted wood transom, floor and foam. I will be watching and learning as well if that is okay? You came to the best place for experienced and professional help guiding you along. :thumb::
 

Mud Puppy

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So with the bisected AFT hull cap removed it really opened up the engine compartment so I to get to the nitty-gritty.




In one of my trips back from the shop one Sunday evening, I noticed the starboard side bow eye on the stern didn't set tight against the boat as it once had.








TTFN! :):)
 

Mud Puppy

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Thanks David! Kenny, the former owner and my boss said he had a full box of all of the front rail and after he sold it must have gotten lost before I ended up with the boat.
 

Mud Puppy

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GM, you are so correct. A wealth of knowledge here, that is for sure!

All of the pictures I am currently posting are from last fall. I would pull it out to our shop on Fridays and work on it on the weekend pulling it home on Sunday evening. On the weekdays I would spend as much time on it after work, as this old body would allow to work on it.

That left absolutely no time to post anything from September on, mostly because I was reading other posts, learning, watching, and falling asleep dreaming of grinding glass!

OBTW, Welcome aboard! :welcome:
 

DavidD

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Hmmmm I think the 1 I have still has rails... Will go look today.
 

Mud Puppy

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Thanks, David!

Quick Note:

The Captain is sore with me: Seems I have immersed myself in the vernacular of moment. I told her I would soon tire of it and return to the norm using aviation terms and military acronyms, possibly even some electronic terms from time to time.

I don't think I helped my case at all! :laugh:
 
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