1972 20HP Chrysler Fuel pressure problems

3rdMarDiv

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Re: 1972 20HP Chrysler Fuel pressure problems

I have a 202HG and two 203HD model 1972 20hp Chryslers. The 3rd motor a 203HD is being worked on now. Each one has had sucking air problems. They all ran fine in the barrell but on the lake at WOT bogged, accelerated then decellerated, etc. With time and patience two are running like swiss watches. I am still fooling around with 3rd motor, 203HD.

Please post any measures you try as they may not have worked for you, but might for someone else.

A few things I can add here are that these motors were built like tanks, but some of the smallest things can cause poor operating conditions. Something a simple as the O-Ring at the mortor connection clamp will cause a sucking air condition.

Many diagrams of the fuel pump for this motor you will see on the NET are printed wrong. They will show the pump diaphram as next to the powerhead and then 2 gaskets. It's gasket, diaphram, gasket like a sandwitch.

I prefer to sit the fuel bowl down and place a small flat screwdriver head against the tab, depressing the tab until the float pin is seated. The float should be level with the bowl casing at that point. There is a spring attached to the pin that may cause the float not to fully raise when turned upside down. That spring needs to be connected to the float tab also.

For best results sit the bowl down and fill with mineral spirits and see where the bowl is at at full close.

Age is problem and there is gasket between the powerhead and upper motor leg that can crack and leak air both ways. With the engine running in the barrell spray some choke cleaner around the connection area and if the engine speeds up then you have a bad gasket. It's an easy repair.

Of course, the points and gap should be cleaned and checked. New plugs gapped properly, etc. Carb cleaned with new gaskets. Check float pin for wear, etc.

Check for spark buy grounding plugs and hand rotating flywheel.

With engine running put a VOM around the plug wires to check for like output.

Hers some pics of a pump I put back on a 202HG. I also put a thin coat of Permatex Permashield Blue (Fuel Resistant) on metal to gasket locations. This is not the Ultra Blue Gasket Maker. I'll be watching this thread and thanks to everyone for any assistance...:joyous:

And, there are no springs only thin metal reeds.

Oh, and I'm not a mechanic so if I have said something wrong go easy on me...I consider myself an advance hobbiest...:peace:

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Re: 1972 20HP Chrysler Fuel pressure problems

Couple more pics...:laugh:DSC05208.jpgDSC05209.jpg
 

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Re: 1972 20HP Chrysler Fuel pressure problems

I should also add that, when working on one motor, I had done about everything possible without positive results. A friend of my said he always runs the Sh!& out of these old motors. Put a couple gallons of unleaded, ethanol free gas combined with half a bottle of seafoam and use a 2 stroke outboard oil called RESTORE...Run the motor for a few, 2 to 3, hours in the barrell...:wacko:

I'm about ready to do this to the motor I'm working on now...It worked great on a previous Chrysler motor...:plane:
 

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Re: 1972 20HP Chrysler Fuel pressure problems

Many diagrams of the fuel pump for this motor you will see on the NET are printed wrong. They will show the pump diaphram as next to the powerhead and then 2 gaskets. It's gasket, diaphram, gasket like a sandwitch.

So the Chrysler service manual is wrong then? I find that hard to believe...

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Re: 1972 20HP Chrysler Fuel pressure problems

Again, I am working on 202 and 203 20hp Chryslers. They use the single stage pump. Below is an example of the diagram that shows diaphram>gasket>gasket seen on several parts sites. On the single stage the service manual shows mounting gasket>diaphram>gasket. I should have specified which pump I was referring to.

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Re: 1972 20HP Chrysler Fuel pressure problems

That makes more sense. I've got a 202H9K but it has a two-stage pump. You said 202 and I thought we were talking about the same thing.
 

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Re: 1972 20HP Chrysler Fuel pressure problems

We are talking about the same motor. We both have a 202H series motor. Chrysler 20hp Short Shaft. 203 is long shaft. The 204 is same, but saltwater series:cool:

The 202H9K is 202H where the 2nd letter is between A and K. The 9 used to be a symbol like H ~ K. So you have a 202 HA, HB, HC, HD, etc. thru to K. I've also seen 8, like H8K where 8 is in place of the infinity symbol. Best I can explain it...LOL

My 202 is an HG Motor.

Yours is likely newer than 1972. I believe the went to the two stage pump in 78 maybe 80??? Don't quote me on that...:laugh:

Check inside the cowling on the Mfg. Plate and it will show the Model Number. The serial number is also important as some parts suppliers use that number to supply the correct part. It seems Chrysler kept serial numbers going right through Model changes. So, by knowing the serial number a parts place can tell you year and model #...

This is 202HG I finished:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0oxZXEWn80

This is a 203HD in curent progress:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP9AEpYMq4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kCsQwutj34

Please upload some pics of your motor...:fish2:
 
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Geosh

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Re: 1972 20HP Chrysler Fuel pressure problems

It's a '79 (probably where that 9 comes from).

You can see that whoever had it before me just used some clear hose instead of fuel hose. My guess is they tried but couldn't fix the problem.
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Re: 1972 20HP Chrysler Fuel pressure problems

Problem solved!!!!

Ok, I had to update this. I finally got to take the boat out today. Shortening the fuel hose from the tank to the engine fixed the problem. No more surging, the fuel filter stays full of fuel and the engine was easy to adjust after the shortening of the hose.
 

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I should also note that raising the fuel tank up a couple inches sure didn't hurt either. It almost went away after I raised the tank up but shortening the fuel tank line made it go completely away. I ran it for 8 minutes wide open with no hesitation what so ever. Before we couldn't get more than 30 seconds before it started hesitating. I could never get the idle to set steady before either, now it took about 3 minutes to adjust it. Really happy with the results. Thanks for the help everyone.
 

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Thanks for the update and the video! I'll definitely make sure the fuel line length is shortened a bit.
I'm still amazed at how much get-up-and-go these Chrysler 20's have.

I'll post a video when I get mine running well. I've still got a bunch of other work to do to it (water pump, points, etc) but I'll post a video when it's up and running. May be a while, seems like my weekends have been pretty booked lately.
 

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Re: 1972 20HP Chrysler Fuel pressure problems

Well a second issue with having it solved by shorting the fuelhose.
Happy to hear that my thought about the fuelhose length was right.

Good luck and happy boating.
 
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