1972 Sea Ray rebuild

cedarlattice

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OK. I went back out and used that there metric system to mix up a batch. I mixed it at 2%. Night and day difference. I can see that if it was hotter out or I was using larger batches, I would go down to 1.75 or1.5%. It set up in a timely manor and I didn’t come back to little air pockets. I wish I could go back in time and follow what OOPS! said in the first place.
 

Woodonglass

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Yep, Metric and Resin IS the only way to go. SOOOO much easier to get it right!!! I'd do the 2 layers of Biax for sure on the Motor mounts. You want a Lot of strength on those.
 

mrdjflores

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Re: 1972 Sea Ray rebuild

any updates???
i have atleast managed to cut the first layer of ply for my transom
 

cedarlattice

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The weather has turned and my trailer is too long for my shop and my wife wants to park her car in her side of the other garage this winter. I need to build a cradle to set it on. I could set the boat in a cradle right on the floor, but I would like to put it on rollers so I can move it in or out. I have looked at WOG's design and also the one Trooper 82 built. Both are good designs, but I would like something in between. If anyone has any ideas or links to previous ones on here I would appreciate it.
 

mrdjflores

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if the trailer tongue is too long, you can cut it off, and install a swing away tongue in the spring
 

cedarlattice

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Actually i did get a little work done last weekend. I'm at work right now so i don't have pictures . I got all of the main stringers in place and tabbed with some CSM for now. I also have one of the engine stringers in place. If the weather will cooperate I can have the other one in place this weekend. I think she is going to sit under a tarp for the winter. The problem is that I have almost 5 gallons of resin. I was freeking out, but I realised that with the stringers in position, I can cut out all of the floor pieces and put the CSM and resin on the bottom in my warm but a little too small shop. That should use up alot of it. I can then get a fresh 5 gallon in the spring to do the final tabbing on the stringers. If I have enough resin I will build a new dog house for the engine this winter also.
 

cedarlattice

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I'm back. I thought winter was over. We had a week of 60-70 degree weather, I knocked down the "honey do" list a little to earn some glass time, but this weekend took a turn. Woke up to a snow storm this morning. I am thinking of looking for teaching jobs down south. Ice fishing was good this year, but enough is enough.

Last fall I ran out of time so i coated one side of all the plywood that I will use for my floor with CSM and resin. I didn't want the resin to go to waste so I tried to use all I could. I still have a gallon and a half left. I had planned on building a new engine cover and coating some cross members over the winter, but like I said, the ice fishing was good. The resin still looks good, but I don't know if it is. If I mixed up a small batch and it hardens, would that tell me if it is good? I was once told that as long as it hasn't started to crystallize it is good.
 

NoSkillz

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Do the test batch. Besides, its for the dog house. Worst case scenario your have to rebuild it, its not like the whole has to come apart to fix it.
 

mrdjflores

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as longs as it still kicks and doesn't clump up in little gel-like clumps, should be good for non structural pieces
 

Woodonglass

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Since you're in the Northern Climate's I'm pretty sure it's gunna be good. Heat and Sunlight is the killer of Resin. If it's been stored in a cool dark place it'll be good as new.
 

cedarlattice

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Thanks guys. It does look good, but I didn't know if there was some sort of chemical molecular breakdown thing that is invisible until you are out in middle of the lake in rough seas. To be safe I am going to save it for nonstructural stuff.

I think i am going to use Woods Rust-oleum method for finishing the deck and bilge. I would like to get the floor fairly smooth and i am wondering what type of fairing compound to get to help smooth out the floor.
 

Woodonglass

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Make your own and use that resin you've got. Just get some 3M Glass bubble to mix with it and mix to Mayonaise consistency. It will sand beautifully.
 

Woodonglass

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Please Call my Wife and Tell her That!!!!! She will tell you otherwise!!!!! I'm sure there are a LOT of guys on here that would tell you different too! But thanks just the same!!!!:D:eek:
 

cedarlattice

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What type of cloth should I use for the final layer before fairing. I had planned on 2 layers of CSM before i got the crazy no carpet idea in my head.
 

cedarlattice

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I finally got to work on my boat. Yesterday I ground all of the tabbing from last fall to prep for the layers of 1708 and gave it a good vacuuming. Today I was able to get the other engine stringer in place and a whole pile of 1708 cut to size so I can finish wrapping stringers. I found out that I am about 5 yards short. Bummer.

I did learn something new today. I was bedding down the engine stringer and things were going very well. All of a sudden my forehead felt like it was on fire. I thought maybe I got stung by a wasp. I pulled my glove off real quick and slapped my fore head. I squished a big glob of PB all through my hair and splattered my glasses. I headed for the house wondering how the heck I was going to clean this up and in the back of my mind wondering how my wife will react coming home to a bald husband. I went into the bathroom and looked in the mirror. It was worse than I thought. I looked down at my razor sitting on the sink and hesitated. Right next to the razor was a bottle of hand lotion. I though what the heck. It gets peanut butter out of hair. I pumped a big handful and started putting it in my hair. I looked like a 50’s greaser. It seemed to be working. I then jumped into the shower to wash it out. It worked!!!!!!!! On the plus side my scalp is unbelievably soft.
 

Ike-110722

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Glad to see you are finally getting to it. And Good advice on how to get the goop out of your hair.
 

cedarlattice

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I found this cloth. It is not 1708. It is a heavy woven roving with a csm backing on it. I believe it is 18 oz. Would this work for my stringers?
 
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