1975 evinrude 9.9 fuel pump prob?

jmendoza

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Re: 1975 evinrude 9.9 fuel pump prob?

Most of us here are spoiled by CDI/electronic ignition and take it for granted that if you have spark, it's fine, and that is correct.....for electronic ignition.

But, and I say this for those who are new to engines, points are a different animal althogether, and even though you can get spark, and the engine runs, it will not be optimum unless they are carefull set and checked against the timing marks. Failure to do so results in poor engine performance, possible detonation under high loads, and poor fuel economy.

Therefore, it is critical to get points perfectly set on the mark.
On twins, it is even more critical because it affects the balance of the power impuses which are traveling through all the moving parts, and can cause at a minimum poor performance, moderate vibration, and if really out of synch, it can wear out and break things eventually.

So, spend the extra time up front, and be rewarded with many hours of trouble free operation. Points rarely fail, the weakest link is the newer condensors (asian mfg) which are inferior to ones made before about 1985(USA). Coils almost are indestructable, and in my experience I have never been stranded with my 1975 9.9 due to an ignition problem. 1977 and on 9.9/15 engines cannot match that reputation because they have a nasty habit of blowing out the power pack ignition. I'll take the points, especially when I'm 15 miles offshore, thank you!
 

scanman

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Re: 1975 evinrude 9.9 fuel pump prob?

Thanks, Jmendoza! Ive heard several people say that they need to carry an extra $50-$80 power pack to get back home! I'm with you! I didn't get to try the timing method today. I had "family stuff" to do. The boy & I almost got arrested tryin to find a geocache this mornin! Anyway, Question: The continuity tester should show "open" when the mark on the FW approaches the first mark, centers em, or what? The divet in the arm plate, I, assume, is two marks, & perfect would be in the middle. The points are new, because of all the false troubleshootin, so I expect em to wear a bit, but once I get this I can adjust em at will. Yesterday, when I let the boy drive, it was missin, I guess, at high rpm. It would feel like we hit somethin, then take back off again. We were close to the bottom, & he weighs more than I do, but I'm not really sure we were draggin it. Probably need to try it again. What you think?
 

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scanman

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Re: 1975 evinrude 9.9 fuel pump prob?

I just finished checkin the points with the meter. #2 was firing just a little early. I'm putting it in now to try it out.
 

scanman

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WOW! I set the points to open when they first hit the port side of the divet on the armature plate, a bit advanced, I think. Took it out alone. Idle speed increased and so did top end! It spun to 5780rpms! just me in the boat with 3 gal. gas & the troller & battery. It ran so fast I ran it aground (OOPS!) lookin at the tach! After a couple of high speed runs, it "slowed" to 5350 rpms. I guess the points are breakin in. I'll time it again tomorrow & run it again. THIS IS FUN!!!!!:D:D:D Thanks Ya'll!
 

AlTn

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Re: 1975 evinrude 9.9 fuel pump prob?

your experience and posts should lend encouragement to anyone with an OMC points fired mag, Scan...a real tutorial by many knowlegable members...what kinda fish you fishin' fer wid dez high speed runs?...j/k...with this tinkerin' over, you've gotta get back to the business at hand...best of luck
 

scanman

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LOL! Fished all day! Even missed Talladega! GOT 15hrs on it in the last two days! Boy, am I beat! I really do hope this thread saves someone else all this headache! I can't believe I had to haul it two hrs. to Will Bark's place to figure it out! The Crappie ain't safe no more!!!:D:D:D
 

the machinist

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Re: 1975 evinrude 9.9 fuel pump prob?

Sorry Scanman for not being in on the final parts of your escapade, but I have been in Montana helping the grandsons chase deer around for a couple of weeks.

Glad you now have a running motor. These 9.9/15hp pre 1992s are almost bulletproof motors & you should have many years of use out of yours. I have owned & wrenched on many, even though the trolling motor on my newest boat is a Yamaha T8 4 stroke, I don't have the heart to get rid of my 1992 9.9 motor as I may just put it on the 10' tri-hull someday. (At least that is what I try to tell myself)

I am with Joe Reeves, just what is wrong with the the internals of that Carburetor?


LeeRoy Wisner
 

scanman

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Re: 1975 evinrude 9.9 fuel pump prob?

I'm again honored, sir. You & Joe Reeves have my utmost respect. I think I scared Joe with the current labor rates, but I really didn't mean to! I studied your "ramblings" as much as my clymer manual, & with all my experience & tools, I could not've done this rebuild without you! I really appreciate the time it takes you to make all that info available to novices like me! El Caminos & Corvettes are a totally different world! Except for paint & decals, I now have a BRAND NEW 1975 Evinrude 9.9, with a 15hp carb (did you see the pics?) & Boysen power reeds to pass on to the boy! We actually had a few moments, betweeen new x-box games, to bond! I'm gonna put the GPS on it to see just how fast it is. Any Idea how much HP I have? I'm guessin between 14 & 17. It's faster outta the hole than it's EVER been. The boat is a 1968 jon, 13'6" & 30" at the beam. It flies now! I'm wonderin if I should go with a 15hp SS prop. I'm gonna be in saltwater a lot & LOVE to GO FAST!

I hope you got a monster deer, & I wish we had em that big down here!

BTW, I shipped the 9.9 carb to Bktheking, to see if he could find the tie wrap in the reed valve! LOL! I hope he finds the problem. I know I'll learn from it, & I hope yall do too! I really just think it's old & tired. I went through every orifice & found nothin! Good luck to him!
 

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Re: 1975 evinrude 9.9 fuel pump prob?

You now have a 15hp. From '74-'76 it was only the smaller carb throat diameter and smaller high speed jet that made 'em 9.9's (they de-tuned 'em for 10hp max lakes).
 

scanman

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Re: 1975 evinrude 9.9 fuel pump prob?

You now have a 15hp. From '74-'76 it was only the smaller carb throat diameter and smaller high speed jet that made 'em 9.9's (they de-tuned 'em for 10hp max lakes).

I kinda knew that, kbait, but I thought the Boysen power reeds were supposed to add another 20%. Wouldn't that be about 16.5hp? Just guessin!
 

AlTn

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Re: 1975 evinrude 9.9 fuel pump prob?

15 x .20 = 3hp....15 + 3 = 18....you've got a 18 hoss zizzeroo, Scanner...yeah, baby!!
 

scanman

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With ALL NEW electrical components!:D

That's kinda what I was thinkin, but now I need a new prop, right?:D:confused::D

It's already a real MONSTER on my lil jon!
 

scanman

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Re: 1975 evinrude 9.9 fuel pump prob?

THAT'S FUNNY, BK!:D:D:D

Soon as the rain clears outta here, I'm gonna get the GPS on it & see just how fast it is.:cool:
 

Will Bark

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Re: 1975 evinrude 9.9 fuel pump prob?

Scanman;

I read your post on another thread where you talked about going up to 6500 RPMs; are you sure that the engine can stand that high of RPMS? I thought that 5500 was about the tops for these engines. Probably Ezeke, FR or Joe Reeves could answer that question. You don't want to scatter parts all over the bayou.:eek:
 

scanman

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Re: 1975 evinrude 9.9 fuel pump prob?

I'd like to see about 6500rpm outta it. I've just gotta figure out how to select the right prop. I don't think an OEM style 15hp prop will give me it's all, but, then again, I don't really know squat about props, yet. I'm kinda thinkin of goin with a model designed for a modern 20hp. Just need to do some research first. I have read, on here somewhere, that I should probably run the oil a little heavy, if I'm gonna run it that hard, though. About 40:1? I've also gotta figure out the best trim setting & mounting height. Right now it's just sittin right down on the transom. This is all part of the fun!:)
 

Will Bark

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Re: 1975 evinrude 9.9 fuel pump prob?

J; I aint't doubting it, I'm just asking a question. For all I know you can hook a bottle of nitrous oxide to it and go to 15,000 without hurting it!:D
 

raczekp1

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Re: 1975 evinrude 9.9 fuel pump prob?

hi.
yes i think it was my word about using mix about 1:40. i'm sure it will not hert. you will increase crank rotation and its good to aplay more lubrication.
i read that 15hp models can eat pistons(distroy pistons) becouse high rpm.
so watch lubrication and cooling.
 

the machinist

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Re: 1975 evinrude 9.9 fuel pump prob?

If you are going to run it that hard, I would consider going to synthetic oil.
 
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