1977 Sylvan Sea Monster Side Console Rebuild

[oldrem]

Planning ahead - the Admiral and I are leaning towards the Nautolex on the decks, gunwale tops and bow plate. Any thoughts on using HH-66 adhesive? Plan is to then carpet the side walls down to the vinyl.

 

[kcassells]

Still like Micks idea about a center console. Talk about complicating things.

 

[oldrem]

Still like Micks idea about a center console. Talk about complicating things.

Yeah - well if she were bigger and wider it might be a consideration. It has perfectly good steering now. Don't need the added work or expense.

 

[oldrem]

Finished gluing the foam "packs" and moved them all to a trailer that's covered to keep them clean until I'm ready to install them. They are all labeled so I know exactly where each goes.

Vacuumed and blew the hull and rib tubes again, then cut some aluminum flat stock to rivet to the ends of the ribs that don't have braces so they'll all be the same height under the decking.

To pump or not to pump ? I would have sworn I removed an old dead bilge pump from this one - must have been remembering the Ouachita I tore apart last fall. If I do decide to add one, I'll have to drill a hole though the side and am not sure if it's necessary. That's something that could be added after it's maiden run.

 

[BWR1953]

Finished gluing the foam "packs" and moved them all to a trailer that's covered to keep them clean until I'm ready to install them. They are all labeled so I know exactly where each goes.

Vacuumed and blew the hull and rib tubes again, then cut some aluminum flat stock to rivet to the ends of the ribs that don't have braces so they'll all be the same height under the decking.

To pump or not to pump ? I would have sworn I removed an old dead bilge pump from this one - must have been remembering the Ouachita I tore apart last fall. If I do decide to add one, I'll have to drill a hole though the side and am not sure if it's necessary. That's something that could be added after it's maiden run.

I labeled my completed foam blocks as well.

I'd like to see pix of the flat stock mod, sounds good.

Pump or not? Uhhh... what happens if you forget to put the drain plug in on the maiden and don't have a pump? :noidea: Just sayin'. :lol:

 

[Dennischaves]

I added one just in case
If your out and get some heavy rain or take a wave over the bow
There pretty cheap so why not

 

[Watermann]

Nice foaming work, that's the best way to do it.

Making the bilge opening in the deck larger is the the best way to have more access. Be sure to put the pump on the same side as the discharge port, which is best on the starboard side so you can see from the helm if the pump comes on or is discharging water if you don't wire in a float.

I added an 8" spin out deck plate in the SW over the top of my pumps (bilge & livewell) and added a bulkhead to attach a spin fuel filter inside as well.

 

[oldrem]

Nice foaming work, that's the best way to do it.

Making the bilge opening in the deck larger is the the best way to have more access. Be sure to put the pump on the same side as the discharge port, which is best on the starboard side so you can see from the helm if the pump comes on or is discharging water if you don't wire in a float.

I added an 8" spin out deck plate in the SW over the top of my pumps (bilge & livewell) and added a bulkhead to attach a spin fuel filter inside as well.

I like that idea. do you have a picture of the spin out plate? I was trying to think of how to cover the openings on both sides, or maybe just make a wrap around cover. If I did that, I could use a router to make a ledge so it would lay flat.

 

[oldrem]

I added one just in case
If your out and get some heavy rain or take a wave over the bow
There pretty cheap so why not

True - I think I'm sold

 

[Watermann]

The pumps.

The SW with cut out, you can see the pumps below.

 

[oldrem]

Thanks Watermann

After measuring the depth I have to work with, I'll have to go with a low profile like the Rule LP900 or the Whale Supersub 500 Anyone have experience with either?

 

[oldrem]

After some further research, I think I may spend the extra few bucks for the Rule - 3 year warranty vs 1 year on the Whale

 

[Watermann]

You could even go with a rectangular hatch cover that is sealed so you don't have to offset the round deck plate. I know your model boat isn't the same and has the single center knee brace in the middle.

Rule is a good choice and truthfully a bilge pump is the least used thing in my boats, both my Chief and SS bilge pumps have never pumped any water. I turn them on before every outing just to be sure they function and that's it.

That's me on the matter and then there's the guys who obsess over bilge pumps and have to have 2 of them with one being an emergency 1100 GPH Tsunami, you know "just in case". Well if you boats so far gone that you have to have 2 pumps then I'm afraid you'll have to start swimming. :lol:

 

[oldrem]

You could even go with a rectangular hatch cover that is sealed so you don't have to offset the round deck plate. I know your model boat isn't the same and has the single center knee brace in the middle.

Rule is a good choice and truthfully a bilge pump is the least used thing in my boats, both my Chief and SS bilge pumps have never pumped any water. I turn them on before every outing just to be sure they function and that's it.

That's me on the matter and then there's the guys who obsess over bilge pumps and have to have 2 of them with one being an emergency 1100 GPH Tsunami, you know "just in case". Well if you boats so far gone that you have to have 2 pumps then I'm afraid you'll have to start swimming. :lol:

Never had to use one myself, but better safe at my age.

Here's a rough sketch of what U had in mind ......

 

[oldrem]

Hmmm just had a rare thought lol. If I put a solid cover over the bilge, there's no way for water on the deck to get quickly to the bilge which is where you want it to go. A grate of some sort would actually be a better option.

 

[Watermann]

Why is there a need to cover the bilge? Once the SW goes back in place you'll not see or even think about it until there's a need to go in and the fewer the obstacles under there the better.

 

[oldrem]

Why is there a need to cover the bilge? Once the SW goes back in place you'll not see or even think about it until there's a need to go in and the fewer the obstacles under there the better.

Lost me on SW ?? My only thought was keeping things from falling in - or these old clumsy feet lol Actually, I'm thinking of putting a SS mesh plate in.

I've always had a problem overthinking and overbuilding things

 

[oldrem]

Got my 10 spacers drilled, dressed and riveted in on the ribs without braces last night. So glad Watermann recommended the air riveter. I'd still be putting rivets in the gunwales now if I was still using my old hand tool.



Had some spare time at work today, so brought the old helm along to start tearing it apart to rebuild. It's all apart now except for drilling out the old rivets, though it all feels study as it is. If stripping it becomes an issue I'll go ahead and drill them out.

 

[Watermann]

Lost me on SW ?? My only thought was keeping things from falling in - or these old clumsy feet lol Actually, I'm thinking of putting a SS mesh plate in.

I've always had a problem overthinking and overbuilding things

SW = Splashwell, with the SW installed how would you put your foot in the bilge?

 

[oldrem]

SW = Splashwell, with the SW installed how would you put your foot in the bilge?

There is no splashwell on this one. I don't see signs of mounting where there ever was one???