1978 Skeeter Wrangler Sport w/ 79' Johnson 140

jigngrub

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Re: 1978 Skeeter Wrangler Sport w/ 79' Johnson 140

Looking good JG!
 

jgarciajim

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Re: 1978 Skeeter Wrangler Sport w/ 79' Johnson 140

Thanks Grub!

Pulled off the motor just now, probably 5 minutes ago... only one thing, I cant seem to find where to disconnect the tilt/trim hose that goes to the system? It is the only hose left before this baby is floatin free.

Here are some pics of the ongoing operation.

Sadly, homemade crane lift didnt gain the trust of the team, went out and rented a material lift, rated for 600 pounds, plenty. Homemade crane will see action in cap/boat lift for sure.
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Here is the hose I am talking about, do it cut it or what?
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In this last pic, this is the steering rod, just want to make sure you loosen this and slide it out.
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Also, in other news, pulled one of the transom bolts out, guess what I found? :)

Extremely dry wood shavings, from just the bolt which should be more damp than others. So far so good.
 

jgarciajim

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Re: 1978 Skeeter Wrangler Sport w/ 79' Johnson 140

Sorry I'm rushing everyone, but need to return the lift in 45 min. This hose and steering rod are the only things stopping me, help.
 

jigngrub

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Re: 1978 Skeeter Wrangler Sport w/ 79' Johnson 140

I'm sorry JG, but I'm no help with either one of those problems because I've never had to do that before.
 

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Re: 1978 Skeeter Wrangler Sport w/ 79' Johnson 140

This should get it done...
Disconnect the link arm that attaches the output end of the cable (telescopic ram) to the tiller arm
of the engine. Unscrew the large nut that attaches the cable to the tilt tube. If the cable was greased regularly, it should slide out through the tube. If the cable does not easily slide out, spray inside the tube with liberal amounts of penetrating oil. With care, use a small hammer and block of wood to gently tap the cable out (after the attachment nut has been removed from the tilt tube). Severe blows can damage not only the cable but the engine’s tilt tube and other areas. This process requires care and patience. Do not try to drive the cable out by turning the steering wheel — this can damage the helm.
 

jgarciajim

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Re: 1978 Skeeter Wrangler Sport w/ 79' Johnson 140

Day 9:

Thanks guys, crisis averted. I managed to sweet talk the rental guys into giving me a Christmas present and keeping the unit until Wednesday morning for no extra charge.

I also managed to pull both the steering rod out, took some adjusting and moving around, and also disconnected the power electrical cables for the tilt/trim unit. had to go all the way into the boat to do that, but turns out the screw holding the power cable into the tilt/trim control box is stripped so I am either going to have to cut the cable and just re-attach later or figure something out.

Once again, thanks guys for helping me solve this, going to continue work until later tonight. Some more pictures are progress continues.

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This is the only wire still attached, just having a lot of difficulty with the 1 screw holding it in, tempted to cut it... but that will be last resort.
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Pretty gross back there, can't wait to give this engine a complete classic white paint job.
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'Merica
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a1964rn

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Re: 1978 Skeeter Wrangler Sport w/ 79' Johnson 140

Nice progress. Did you decide what to do for paint on your cap? I intend to paint mine with this:
Interlux Brightside High Gloss Polyurethane Marine Paint from Wholesale Marine

This is the paint I used on my hull. Not sure that yours needs paint, though.
Interlux VC Performance Epoxy Boat Bottom Finish from Wholesale Marine

It's probably a little more expensive than some ideas you'll read about here:rolleyes:, but I believe it's worth it.

Someone had upholstered the cap of my boat before I bought it! That's right...upholstered it - with vinyl! Front to back.

As for the rain...We're getting it here in the DFW area! Supposed to change over to snow this afternoon.

Have a Merry Christmas!
 

jgarciajim

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Re: 1978 Skeeter Wrangler Sport w/ 79' Johnson 140

Yeah we were supposed to get some heavy rain, but instead we got insanely strong gusts of wind that have knocked down numerous trees around the area. Hopefully the wind calms down tomorrow morning, I want to get some work done on this thing. Glad we didn't get snow, that would have killed my plans.

Thanks for the advice on the paint, ill keep you updated as I get closer to painting the hull/cap.

Merry Christmas to you also! And to everyone reading this thread, hope your Christmas went smoothly!
 

jgarciajim

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Re: 1978 Skeeter Wrangler Sport w/ 79' Johnson 140

Day 10:

Ok, so today was a little slow, finished removing the rivets holding the cap to the hull.

I decided to use the existing trailer to brace the hull while the cap was removed, added a few more supports on the sides to keep them at the right dimensions.

I ran into one problem today, I was lifting the cap from the hull but it was still extremely attached at the stern. Does anyone know what may be still attached under there? Plan on finally lifting everything tomorrow morning, then hopefully everything checks out under the deck and I can put it back on.

No pics for today's work :(
 

jigngrub

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Re: 1978 Skeeter Wrangler Sport w/ 79' Johnson 140

May be adhesive, resin, and/or sealant holding the cap at the stern... try prying and jiggling gently with a flat bar to loosen it.
 

jgarciajim

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Re: 1978 Skeeter Wrangler Sport w/ 79' Johnson 140

Day 11:

I am officially worthless. I did almost nothing today, I blame the weather for this. It was dark and gloomy the entire day and it rained sporadically.

However I managed to pull myself together around 7pm and remove the gas tank from one side, behind it was a mess of glue that is holding the last of the cap onto the hull. I am planning on diving in tomorrow and removing the last of the adhesive and hopefully pulling the cap off completely.

Good call on that one Grub.

I will definitely be posting some pics tomorrow, hopefully of a boat with no lid on it :)
 

jgarciajim

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Re: 1978 Skeeter Wrangler Sport w/ 79' Johnson 140

Heard you guys got snow over there? lucky.

Actually looking to buy some primer and the Interlux you recommended, how much should I get of primer and paint for the cap?
This question goes out to anyone who may know.

Thanks for the input.
 

a1964rn

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Re: 1978 Skeeter Wrangler Sport w/ 79' Johnson 140

We got about an inch, but it didn't last long. I was happier with the rain. We definately needed it.

Here's the link to the "How to Apply" for this paint.
How To Apply Interlux Brightside Application Data | Wholesale Marine Boating Blog – How To's, Videos, Boat Parts, Watersports, Boat Maintenance and More

Coverage (Theoretical) – 550 (ft/Gal) by brush, 440 (ft/Gal) by spray
I have to get probably 4 quarts for mine, because I'm mixing my own color, plus I'm repainting a stripe on the side of my hull. Otherwise I would think 2-3 quarts should do it. It took 1 1/2 gal. to paint my entire hull - 4 coats - so it shouldn't take over 3 quarts for 2-3 coats.
 

jgarciajim

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Re: 1978 Skeeter Wrangler Sport w/ 79' Johnson 140

Once again, appreciate the help, if I can ever be of any help let me know.

Now another question to anyone who knows how to solve this.
This is the only holding the cap on, looks like PB? Maybe i'm wrong, but this stuff is solid. I can't even seem to chisel it away, then again I have limited room. Any ideas? Should I go ahead and cut around it, then remove it once the cap is off and reattach to the cap?

Also when I put the cap back on, is this stuff necessary? Or can I just seal with adhesive?

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a1964rn

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Re: 1978 Skeeter Wrangler Sport w/ 79' Johnson 140

That looks like the splash well, correct? If thats what I'm looking at, then yeah you'll have to cut it. Cut it from the top side w/ a sawzall or a grinder with a cutoff wheel. Then re-glass it when you put the cap back on.
 

jgarciajim

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Re: 1978 Skeeter Wrangler Sport w/ 79' Johnson 140

Sounds good, I just didn't want to mess with the structural integrity of the boat before getting advice, but it looks like if I just cut the actual splash well, no harm will be done.

Also, I just ordered the paint for the cap, also a gallon of primer, and I am order the 2333N Thinner, I think 2 qrts should be enough for the primer and paint.

Thanks, more pics later once the cap is off.
 

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Re: 1978 Skeeter Wrangler Sport w/ 79' Johnson 140

One more piece of advice. When you get that cap off, check your stringers and transom good for signs of rot. Drill a few holes into the transom from the inside, but not all the way through. Check the wood that comes out. If it's wet/dark, then you've got rot. If it's light/dry, then it's good. If theres no rot, fill the holes back in with epoxy (preferred), or whatever you're using and go on about your business. If it's got rot, then now's the time to replace it. Do the same with your stringers, toward the rear, down low. Rot usually goes from the bottom up. My transom felt solid too, but I did the drill test, and on one side, where who knows how many transducers and whatever else had been mounted (37 holes), and filled with silicone, it was rotten. It would be a shame to go through the trouble of pulling the cap off, just to have to do it again in a year or two! My stringers were mulch, so I didn't have to test them.
 

jgarciajim

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Re: 1978 Skeeter Wrangler Sport w/ 79' Johnson 140

Boats should just be made of Hardie Plank...

Anyway, I am having an insane amount of trouble lifting the cap off, it is completely cut off and everything, but now I don't know how I am going to lift it. My original plan was to just lift it with the engine lift, but the only problem is that I only have one lift, my other wooden one I built is strong enough but too short to clear the hull.

Thinking of building two wooden arcs over the boat and lifting with those (similar to what trooper did to flip his boat), but I dont even know if that will work.

I'm going to look around and see what other people did... I want this cap lifting to be over, so I can begin having some fun...
 
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