1982 Glastron Hpv165 bass boat restoration.

[jigngrub]

Re: 1982 Glastron Hpv165 bass boat restoration.

Looks like the fun is about to begin!

You may want to wear a dust mask when tearing out the old rotten foam and stuff, lots of mold and mildew spores in that junk and it can deal your sinuses misery.

 

[maryhannaj]

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Thats a great tip jigngrub, thank you. The foam that I can see is just exactly that. It is very discolored and covered with what looks like black mold in some spots but also back near the transom the foam is covered in a bluish tint crap. It may just be the dust that got stirred around and stuck to the moldy foam while I was cutting through the splashwell but even then I will no doubt use a respirator. For about 3 years I worked for a company laying up and producing composite aircraft parts and I know that stuff is no joke.
Something else I forgot to mention in my last post is that I spent a bit of time tonight looking over the inside of the bilge area around the transom with a flashlight. What I found was right where the stringers attach to the transom, the tabbing had cracked out and was hanging on kind of like safety glass does when it shatters, and underneath the tabbing that I scraped away with a screwdriver, the stringers were eaten away to the point where I could see on one of the sides at least, a rusted screw that at one point held the bottom of the transom to the stringer.
After seeing the core samples that I took from the transom, I had kind of expected to see some rot in there but that was a bit more than I had suspected.
This is going to be fun. And like you said, now it is about to begin. Along with a great learning experiece. Thank you for the advice and for following along!

 

[Daniel1947]

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Looking good so far....I just googled Clearfield, you are right on top of the Great Salt Lake. Is that where you boat and fish? I didn't know there were any bass in that lake, lol.

 

[jbcurt00]

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If you'd ever seen the south end of the great Salt Lake you would NOT be asking about the fishing.....

Although the copper mine is impressive....

Cap stands look great...

 

[maryhannaj]

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Daniel1947. There are a few islands out in the middle of the lake. One is called Antelope island. There is a lot of wildlife on the island itself and they have built a road across the lake connecting the island to the mainland. I could drive straight there in about 20 minutes.
Just as jbcurt00 says, there are no fish in the lake. It is completely dead of fish. There are only brine shrimp and bugs everywhere. The salt content is so high that you can nearly effortlessly float on top of the water.
on the other hand, I do love to fish on Willard bay wich is a body of fresh water seperated from the Great Salt Lake by a man made dyke. It is on the North Eastern end of the lake and would look just like part of the lake itself unless you zoomed up pretty close. I posted a you tube video about a month ago out on Willard in my restoration project titled, Bass boat on Willard bay Utah. You should check it out.
Thanks about the stands jbcurt00. I worked pretty hard on all of my support equipment so far and really appreciate the compliments from you and other members as well. Now that we're back on the restoration project, I finally felt a bit of a sense of accomplishment from my work, and the satisfaction of knowing that my home made equipment worked as I had planned. With the help of this community of course.
I managed to get the stands placed, the cap dropped, the gantry disassembled and the hull placed next to the cap.
It didn't all go as smooth as I just made it sound though. After I had the cap dropped almost all the way down onto the stands, I realized that I had mis-measured the middle stand and the uprights were 2 inches too long. So the cap would have been resting in a bent position. I also mis-measurured the front stand and made it 2 inches too short. So I had to raise the cap back up, remove the middle stand, disassemble the uprights, cut them down, and reassemble them. I also had to put a board on top of the front stand. Hopefully at this point the cap wouldn't be resting in a warped position.
I dropped the cap again and this time it worked out.

 

[maryhannaj]

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Now that the cap was out of the way, and especially that it was sitting out in the drive way in the sunlight, I found some stuff that had I known it was like that, I would have never put the boat in the water. Some of the things I noticed last night with a flashlight but the natural light made seem even worse.

This is the keel up at the bow of the boat.



This part of the port side gunwhale area



Here is a shot of the bilge compartment floor in between the two port side stringers. Notice the crack.



The bilge compartment floor in between the starboard side stringers. These cracks are even worse.



And last, but not least I am quite sure. "Hello", I would like to introduce myself, My name is Mr. Starboard side stringer that is supposed to be attached to the the transom, but instead, I'm just broken and hollow except for some rusty ole' attached to thin air screws! Ta-da.
You cant really see the screws but you will soon enough.

 

[maryhannaj]

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And here are just a few more pics of stuff that I would love as many opinions on as possible please. It just seems to me that all of this foam in the gwhale areas and in those 2 box shaped structures which I would also love to know the real term for, should be covered and glassed in.
Around here, and out on Willard bay, a bunch of water will no doubt make it's way into this boat. And I am in no way comfortable with leaving these areas exposed unless someone can tell that they are suppose to be this way for some reason.



Anyway. Thanks again to everyone for hangin out with me on this adventure so far. This is really starting to be some fun now!

 

[jigngrub]

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Those 2 wads of foam at the stern are called floatation cells or pods, and you can do a much better job on that foam than they did.

Surprise surprise on the cracks and broken stringer eh?! People don't realize how bad these old fiberglass boats can be on the inside when they buy them, and that's why I always try to suggest for anyone that comes on here with an older boat to open it up and have a look.

Looks like you have a busy removal schedule ahead of you now, don't forget your dust mask.

 

[maryhannaj]

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Hey thanks jigngrub. Now I know what they're called and I already have a plan in mind as of how to redo and seal them off. If you notice on the cap, there are vent holes directly above those cells. So water gets in there for sure. Problem is, when the foam is exposed and as porus as that foam is, the water never gets back out. But im sure you already knew that. So intend to slope them, enclose and glass them over. Let me know what you think about that idea.
I spent a few hours today removing more equipment from the boat and doing some strip down work. I took out the gas tank, bilge pump, earator pump, battery trays and some more of the hardware on the trasom etc...

 

[maryhannaj]

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Next, I removed the carpet and some foam in a few spots up in the bow of the boat to find water soked foam in the bottom corners. Big surprise! I have no idea what the previous owner used for glue, but holy crap it wouldn't pull up for anything. I had to use a few special tools in order to get it pulled and there are still a few spots where there is still some carpet.

 

[maryhannaj]

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I plan tomorrow to begin cutting the floor out. Can anyone tell please tell me if I'm ok to start cutting. The boat is sitting on the trailer and I have removed as much weight from the hull as possible. Before I cut, I am going to take a series of cross measurments etc..
I have also posted a few more of the transom area pics under better light.

daniel1947. I told you I would post a better pic of the underside rear splashwell area when I could get one. Here it is. This is why I cut through it.



Here is a better pic of the rotted out port side stringer. If you look close you can see the rusty screw underneath where the glass used to be. You can also see the difference in the color of the glass work which leads me to beleive that this is a previous repair job gone bad.



If anyone can offer any advice at this point it would as usual, be greatly appreciated. Thanks all!

 

[budski]

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Hey man I have to give you a lot of credit, being a tinnie restorer I wouldn't know where to start with that, great job so far.

 

[maryhannaj]

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Thanks budski. Very much appreciated! I will say this as well. I have been fortunate enough to have the oppotunity to work on automobiles, motorcycles and dirtbikes. I have done overhaul work on both fighter and cargo aircraft and was even able to gain a little bit of experience with the lay-up processes of fiberglass, carbon fiber and kevlar.
Although I haven't been able to retain the memory of the different types of fiberglass materials and will really need some help with that, I feel very comfortable jumping in on this fiberglass boat project.
I also know that whenever you do any type of structural work, the structure outer skins, body etc... have to be jacked up and shored into a certain type of configuration. I'm just not sure about how to do this with a boat and at which point it has to be done. This is why I really rely on other good and more knowledgeable members.
So once again man. Thank you!

 

[jigngrub]

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I plan tomorrow to begin cutting the floor out. Can anyone tell please tell me if I'm ok to start cutting. The boat is sitting on the trailer and I have removed as much weight from the hull as possible. Before I cut, I am going to take a series of cross measurments etc..

Before you start cutting:

Make sure your boat is level all the way around, fore to aft and port to starboard. If it's out of level jack the trailer up to level it.

Step back and look at your boat on the trailer, does it look like everything is well supported? I can't really tell from the pics, but it looks like you could use some more support towards the bow. Maybe a couple of small saw horse supports under the keel in that area?

Along with your cross measurements, measure down from the top of the gunwale to the top of your deck in several spots.

A couple of 2x4 braces accross the top of your gunwales (port to starboard) will help hold your boat to shape too.

 

[maryhannaj]

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Thanks jigngrub. I will get doing just that.

 

[V153]

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Good idea. I used 3 2x2s.

Kinda a b*tch to work around, but think it's worth the inconvenience. Upper half went back on like a glove.

 

[maryhannaj]

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Ok jigngrub, I just got her leveled from side to side and from front to back. However, the top of the hull along the gunwale is contoured so I leveled the side to side on the sterrn, the middle and the bow. I leveled the front to back on the flatest possible spot over one of the inner stringers on the sole. Is this ok?
Hey V_153, good to hear from you again and I just picked up a few more pieces of lumber to brace the side to side. Thanks for the pic.

 

[maryhannaj]

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Here's another pic of the unsuported bow area for you jigngrub. Do you still think I should build another support for it?

 

[jigngrub]

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Looks real good MHJ!

Your boat is more apt to stay "square and true" with it being level like that and you can keep an eye on it during demo and reconstruction to see if anything has shifted or drooped with a simple check.

 

[jigngrub]

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Here's another pic of the unsuported bow area for you jigngrub. Do you still think I should build another support for it?

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I'd probably lay a 2x4 accross the trailer frame and slide it up against the keel and clamp it off to the frame, just a little extra something between the end of the bunks and the winch block: