1984 26' carver monterey bulkhead separation

[fatboy308]

Hi. I bought a 1984 26' Carver Monterey. I noticed under the deck, port side, at I guess the bulkhead, the thin fiberglass wall ( very thin; 1/8" with no plywood on inside) is separated from the bottom hull from the outside rib to the side & up 1/2 way. Is this a load bearing structure or is this just to keep fumes out of the cabin? It is fiberglassed in only on the stern side & not very much, maybe 1" wide. I need to know if I need a total rebuild for structure or I can just shmoo it to seal it up? Anyone please help. i have pics & a video. thanx
Mark

 

[R Socey]

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Photos will help the helpers help you!

 

[fatboy308]

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[fatboy308]

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[tpenfield]

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Looks like you will be replacing the bulkhead. Perhaps you should check the stringers too.

 

[jbcurt00]

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Hey, I'd suggest you edit the title to suggest what the problem is so it garners interest from some of the moderators or heavy weights @iBoats.

Hit the "Edit post" tab at the bottom right of your first post, then in the new window that opens hit the "Go Advanced" tab. At the top of the post window that opens, there should be an box w/ your Sos help title, just type over that w/ a new title, & when you post it, the title will be changed.

I'd suggest something like:

Bulkhead separated at hull

How concerned should I be w/ bulkhead separation

Has this separation decreased the structural integrity of my hull

1984 26' carver monterey bulkhead separation

There are 10's of thousands of us posting & only so many Mod's. It may take some time to have 1 of them swing through. But putting the boat yr, make & model in the title will draw people who have your boat & may have similar problems, & listing your concern, esp if unsafe, gets peoples attention. Good bunch @ these parts. Always helpful, LOVE PIX, and will do all they can to make your stay in dry dock quick as possible.

Wish I could help answer the Q's. I would proceed w/ caution until the separation is at least stabilized, and spend some time looking around at the inside & outside of the deck, hull & boat looking for a clue as to how it might have become separated. Hopefully it wasn't what lead the previous owner (PO) to sell it. Not cool, not cool at all, no matter what you paid if its unsafe.

Welcome, FatBoy, and best of luck getting her patched up & back in the water!

I have to ask: Did you ever work for a catering service & know a dishwasher named Willie? I have the Blk & Orange hat & street sign, neither for the HD motorcycle

 

[fatboy308]

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Looks like you will be replacing the bulkhead. Perhaps you should check the stringers too.

there is no rot ,it looks like someone hit it

 

[oops!]

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there is no rot ,it looks like someone hit it

yes there is.....it is so rotten that there is no wood behind the fiberglass..

hi fatboy.

im courious to know what bulkhead that is...i looked at the vid, but was not able to use the sound as im at work.
the reason the glass is cracked is because the substraight is gone behind it.

you repair it, you will need to pull away the glass that is flopping around....get rid of it. replace the wood that was behind it....then re glass and gellcoat.

those hoses that go thru the glassed in area are more than likely the culpret that let the water into the wood to start the rot.

when you get the glass out, you will find mor rotten wood than you expected.

can you give us a pic of the overall area that the bad glass/rot is in?

that will help us determine the best wat to proceed.

cheers
oops

 

[jbcurt00]

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That's one of the guys you want helping you out, both asking & answering questions. Click on the link in his signature, it's got an index on page 1. Lots of great info!

 

[Friscoboater]

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I am with oops. There is supposed to be wood behind the glass that it would be adhered too. It looks to have rotted away, and the glass cannot support the weight.

 

[fatboy308]

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hi i have more pics that won't upload?? if it is structural wouldn't it have fiber glass on both sides of the rotted wood?? wouldn't it be tied to the hull better??? & would it be thicker than 1/8 "??? the 1 - 2" hose & the 2 -3/4 hoses go to the head through approx 1/4 fiberglass & no wood like a tub liner. now in that area the rub rail took a shot approx 10 years ago. no cracks in hull & the yacht has been to sea 150+ time since. if it is structural i need to remove fuel tank & alot of stuff so I can get in there. if it is not structural i can have my skinny son do it. i think i need a carver yacht expert. do you know of anybody that would have ist hand experience with a 1984 carver 26' monterey??? thank you mark

 

[fatboy308]

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Hi. I bought a 1984 26' Carver Monterey. I noticed under the deck, port side, at I guess the bulkhead, the thin fiberglass wall ( very thin; 1/8" with no plywood on inside) is separated from the bottom hull from the outside rib to the side & up 1/2 way. Is this a load bearing structure or is this just to keep fumes out of the cabin? It is fiberglassed in only on the stern side & not very much, maybe 1" wide. I need to know if I need a total rebuild for structure or I can just shmoo it to seal it up? Anyone please help. i have pics & a video. thanx
Mark

hi i have more pics that won't upload?? if it is structural wouldn't it have fiber glass on both sides of the rotted wood?? wouldn't it be tied to the hull better??? & would it be thicker than 1/8 "??? the 1 - 2" hose & the 2 -3/4 hoses go to the head through approx 1/4 fiberglass & no wood like a tub liner. now in that area the rub rail took a shot approx 10 years ago. no cracks in hull & the yacht has been to sea 150+ time since. if it is structural i need to remove fuel tank & alot of stuff so I can get in there. if it is not structural i can have my skinny son do it. i think i need a carver yacht expert. do you know of anybody that would have ist hand experience with a 1984 carver 26' monterey??? thank you mark

 

[jbcurt00]

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oops is probably the best guy to ask & he gave you an opinion earlier. Open a photo bucket acct, when you hover the mouse over the photos, a list of picture tag formats will come up, click the last one: and the text next to it will automatically change to [I]'[img] tag'[/I] copied. Then just click your right mouse button & select paste from the choices, and paste the pix here:

[IMG]http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg618/jbcurt00/7.jpg

Without photos, it will be difficult to accurately diagnose the problem. BTW, most glass is laid over a substrate, plywood is the usual substrate......

 

[fatboy308]

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oops i have gotten to the backside of it ( under the head ) there is no rotten wood. the rib is solid. i think when built it they put cardboard in the gap & sprayed fiberglass. i think this is a type of sealer so the fumes do not get under the cabin. if there is no wood can i assume this is not structural & i can epoxy it & seal the cracks instead of tearing it all out & replacing?????? ( alot smaller of a job ) thank you mark ( more pics )