1990 Bayliner Capri restore in progress w/pictures now!!

[kenny26]

Re: 1990 Bayliner Capri restore in progress w/pictures now!!

New transom is glassed in I laminated the ply with CSM and poly-resin prior to install and its plenty strong. I used peanut butter to fillet around the transom and I ended up using a layer of CSM, tabbing with Roving, and then 2 layers of CSM on top of that.

Now i just need to glass in the transom knee brace, cover the floatation boxes with plywood and fiberglass, and clean up the hull/deck joint and I can put the cap back on!!!!! Whoohoo!!! After that... Stringers!

My garage is a total mess, Fiberglass, resin, wood, dust, tools. Wife is ready to kill me but I'm making progress.

I've got to say uscomposites is great! They shipped fast, and their 435 poly resin is easy to work with compared to the all purpose stuff i bought locally to practice with.

 

[BobsGlasstream]

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kenny26,
You are really moving along. The new transom looks good.
I know what you mean about the wife thing too. I have one of those.
She really doe not understand.
Well, that's another story.
Keep it rolling and keep us posted.
Bob

 

[kenny26]

Re: 1990 Bayliner Capri restore in progress w/pictures now!!

Baby steps...

I got the transom knee brace in and the floatation boxes covered and glassed in. I also cleaned the old sealant off the hull/deck joint so I can set the cap back on while I work on the stringers and deck.

 

[drewpster]

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Kenny, First let me offer my sincerest condolences to you and your family. Anyone who has children shudders at the thought of what you guys are going through. I hope your boat project helps as a distraction from time to time. Best wishes to you and yours.

The boat looks great! And coming along at light speed. I am in the middle of my own complete re-core so I can relate. Keep plugging, and keep us informed.

 

[lowkee]

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Wow, looking at your naked hull, the difference between your outboard and my I/O is just a hole in the transom. Amazing! You are speeding along nicely. Heck, the tear down took me forever, you just blazed through it. I agree on Us comp.. they sell some nice stuff. The poly resin has worked out great. Beware of the MEKP age, it really does stop working after 4 weeks, so be ready for it by ordering more. I won't share how I learned that lesson :redface:

 

[kenny26]

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Wow, looking at your naked hull, the difference between your outboard and my I/O is just a hole in the transom. Amazing! You are speeding along nicely. Heck, the tear down took me forever, you just blazed through it. I agree on Us comp.. they sell some nice stuff. The poly resin has worked out great. Beware of the MEKP age, it really does stop working after 4 weeks, so be ready for it by ordering more. I won't share how I learned that lesson :redface:

Lowkee,
I only ordered 5 gallons of resin, and will likely run out once the stringers are done. So another order is in store anyway, but I didn't know that about the MEKP. Dang they sure don't advertise the shelf life of that stuff.

QUESTION FOR YOU: On your original deck was the deck near the stern sitting on the bottom of the hull up against the sides (vertical portion) of the hull? Mine was... And then as you moved forward it transitioned off the flat portion of the hull under the seat boxes (which are gone now). I'm struggling with how to replace this, other than making the deck narrower and butting up to the flat portion like your new deck is. Can you confirm that's what you did too?

 

[lowkee]

Re: 1990 Bayliner Capri restore in progress w/pictures now!!

I'm not sure where my deck was, as I was bad at taking before shots (at least useful ones). To add insult to injury, I did such a thorough job grinding and sanding, I had no idea where the deck once was when I needed to know. So where my deck is now, is where I guessed it should be and nothing more. I'll try to track down a semi-decent before photo for you, though.

 

[BobsGlasstream]

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kenny26,
It looks like everyone is passing me by.
That's OK,
I have more to read that way.
It's looking pretty good.
Bob

 

[kenny26]

Re: 1990 Bayliner Capri restore in progress w/pictures now!!

kenny26,
It looks like everyone is passing me by.
That's OK,
I have more to read that way.
It's looking pretty good.
Bob

Thanks Bob, The stringers and deck are slowing me down now. I got the cap set back on easily so I haven't screwed up yet ;-) . But the original deck started out the full with of the hull at the stern and then tapered as you moved forward. I'm struggling with how to gracefully make the transition off of the flat outer edge of the hull down into the V of the hull. Even with a beveled edge on the plywood its not going to drop off smoothly. Maybe I should just fillet it smooth, but that bothers me (perfectionist). The other option is to narrow the decking at the stern, but I don't like that option either. So you might catch up... Any suggestions on how to make the transition to where the hull drops away? The transition happened underneath the seatboxes originally so the deck was sort of floating in those areas and attached to the seatbox bases.

My hull is shaped like this:

 

[BobsGlasstream]

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kenny26,
Mine did something like that too. Only toward the stern, mine was above the chime and then on the chime and then between the chimes. It looked pretty level, they just beveled the deck at the same angle as the hull. It was really solid.

Bob

 

[kenny26]

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Thanks bob. Thats a great help! I didn't think the bevel would do it but obviously it will. I think i'm going to buy some pink insulation board like lowkee did and mock it up. If I can get it to work with that then I can just transfer it to the ply.

 

[SKIBUM1M]

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Kenny, Just found your thread. Great job so far and looking good. How long is the boat?
I understand rebuilding a boat to take your mind off something. My wife is deployed and on her way to Afghanistan and the boat is my distraction.
Keep up the great work and just think of the fun next summer. There will be someone on the shore wishing they were you. And next winter they will be on here fixing their bargain.

 

[kenny26]

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Skibum,

Thanks, the boat is 17 feet. I'll keep your wife in my prayers!

Ken

 

[SKIBUM1M]

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I wouldnt worry too much about the floor meeting the hull perfectly. Just get it the best you can then fill in around the edges with long strand fiberglass. You can buy it at autozone in a gallon container. Its labeled bondohair. When its cured grind it smooth. To make sure my deck will stay dry, I fiberglassed the top and bottom of the deck before installing it. Are you painting or carpeting the floor when you are done.

 

[kenny26]

Re: 1990 Bayliner Capri restore in progress w/pictures now!!

I wouldnt worry too much about the floor meeting the hull perfectly. Just get it the best you can then fill in around the edges with long strand fiberglass. You can buy it at autozone in a gallon container. Its labeled bondohair. When its cured grind it smooth. To make sure my deck will stay dry, I fiberglassed the top and bottom of the deck before installing it. Are you painting or carpeting the floor when you are done.

That decision is still on the todo list... I'm torn because carpet looks nice, but I hate that it holds water. I'm thinking that i'll probably paint it, and then try to make a snap-in piece of carpet (best of both worlds).

Also struggling with the seating options too. I like the captain's chairs, but nice ones are pricey compared to new back-to-back seats, and I don't know what to do for second row seating if I do captains.

I'm going to glass the top and bottom of the deck with CSM. I'm also planning to run a strip of Roving around the deck for additional strength. I need to get some template material for the deck. I'm sure I'll get some get it done-itis here soon and just knock it out. Eventually, my impatience overcomes my perfectionism Christmas will probably slow me down though.

 

[BobsGlasstream]

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kenny26,
I have been fighting with the same problem. I too like the captain chairs but worried about seating.
I don't have more then four people in my boat at any one time. So I was thinking of fabricating up some bench type seats from the stern seats to the back of the captains chair.
Still not sure.
Let me know if you come up with any great Idea's. i could use one.
Bob

 

[kenny26]

Re: 1990 Bayliner Capri restore in progress w/pictures now!!

kenny26,
I have been fighting with the same problem. I too like the captain chairs but worried about seating.
I don't have more then four people in my boat at any one time. So I was thinking of fabricating up some bench type seats from the stern seats to the back of the captains chair.
Still not sure.
Let me know if you come up with any great Idea's. i could use one.
Bob

i was thinking about jump seats like these at the stern if i use captains seats for the captain and admiral.

 

[cheesegrits]

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Hey Kenny great progress! I helped my buddy replace his floor in his 1850 Capri this summer. His stringers were okay and as far as we could tell so was his transom. We did not pull his cap just cut back as far as we could and dug out old ply under seats and walkthrough. We did the same in the stern. Then cut ply and drove it under the slot we had made up under the rear float boxes and under the consoles in the bow. We then ran fillet around all edges and tabbed ply in with epoxy then two layers of 1700 over whole surface. His deck did the same thing as yours tapering towards the bow. The original ply sat in a step as it went forward. We cleaned this until we got to good glass then coated this with epoxy and then laid a fillet of thickened epoxy and set coated ply into this. His turned out extremely strong with no flex or twist even when jumping wakes this summer with our rather large friends aboard. Good luck with yours and am looking forward to seeing your progress!

 

[BobsGlasstream]

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kenny26
I just wanted to wish you a safe and Merry Christmas.
Bob

 

[oops!]

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two thumbs up....

ill be stripping my capri in a few months.

the hull extension thread will answer just about every question you have asked.
and remember ....in runabout renovation.....jim said.....just duplicate what was there...its allways the easyest......the headaches start when you change the design.

cheers
oops