1992 Crownline 196br stringers, transom and the whole bit

[steely85]

I finally have some updates. My wife and I went to the boat show this last weekend. I got a LOT of great ideas. When I first was looking to rebuild the boat I showed my wife some pictures of a wakeboard boat with a backwards chaise seat on the passengers side. She said it looked stupid. Well... after going to the boat show and seeing those boats with them she LOVES them. So now I am taking one of my captains chairs and putting it in storage so I can build chaise and a side bench. I am scrapping the old walls I had cut out and using my new design can use a lighter material so that will cut down on the increased weight of the bench and chaise. I used my scale (my arms) and felt how heavy the old walls were and I actually think that after I do the new design it will either come out lighter or about the same weight as before. YES!! So here are the pictures of the updated seats.





I am making the back bench and chaise in 3 separate sections so I can remove them to fiberglass the floor and reinstall them when they are done being painted with resin and fiber glassed? I will probably just do the finishing work on my bench then install the sections when they are done. Much better than climbing in and out and being hunched over for hours.

 

[Woodonglass]

Good pland but are you concerned with the added weight you're adding. 2x lumber adds up pretty quick. 1X or aluminum angle might be a better choice. JMHO!!

 

[steely85]

weight is absolutely a concern for me, that's why I am scrapping my 3/4 inch plywood walls for 3/8 or 1/4 inch. I was nervous about using 1x because I didn't think it would be strong enough to support 4-6 adults either sitting on the bench or on the sun deck it will also be supporting. Please correct me if I am wrong I would be happy to restructure it where I can!! Also if I can what would be the best practice of fastening the 1x sticks together to make up the frame for the chaise and back bench. The reason I went with 2x3 was because i didn't think i could build a sturdy box using 1x. I probably wouldn't have enough room for the screws going vertically, horizontally from the left and horizontally from the right. I am all about saving weight, I wouldn't mind taking this apart and ripping it down with my table saw piece by piece if it would both save me weight and be safe enough for people to jump on.

 

[steely85]

Are there any good threads on building a bench or sun deck using 1x lumber?
I guess I never considered using plywood to form the base. Maybe that is what the plywood that I had cut out 2 years ago were for. They were labeled back bench but for some reason in that amount of time I reverted back to the 2x3 idea. lol..

 

[steely85]

If I do decide to build the seat bases using plywood should I use 1/4 inch be thick enough?

 

[Jarcher3]

I'm not sure on the construction side, but i think the Wakeboat Esq lounger will be awesome!

questions on it tho, why leave all the space from the console to the back rest seems like wasted space. unless you are going to put something in that area.

 

[ezmobee]

I think a lot of the boats that offer a lounger like that have a moveable backrest that can be flipped forwards or backwards depending on which way you wanna face. It would be cool if you would work out something like that.

 

[Woodonglass]

1x3 box frame construction would be ample to hold the weight., Lap Joints or Pocket Hole Screws and but joints would get the job done. 1/2" plywood Tops and 1/4" side "Skins" would also be adequate. I'd recommend coating it all with either the Old Timers Recipe or if you want to go all out use Epoxy. Since the seats are NOT that wide then a 1x3 on edge with a span of 30" or less will support a LOT of weight.

 

[steely85]

I'm not sure on the construction side, but i think the Wakeboat Esq lounger will be awesome!

questions on it tho, why leave all the space from the console to the back rest seems like wasted space. unless you are going to put something in that area.

I love the way it is starting to look in the boat, and yes it does seem like a lot of wasted space, but if it was any closer to the dash, you would hit your head on the window dute to its low profile. The newer boats have less of an angle on their windows. I wouldn't really consider it wasted space, I am 6 foot 3 and I will fit on the lounger just fine, and I am going to have the back pad open up into the huge cubby left below the dash. See I married a nurse and we always have lots of her female friends come with us when we are out on the boat. With females comes bags and bags and bags lol.... so the storage that will create will be more than welcome. We also have a 9 month old and all her stuff. I will fiberglass a new dash on the passenger side with a nice size glove box and phone charging station.

 

[steely85]

1x3 box frame construction would be ample to hold the weight., Lap Joints or Pocket Hole Screws and but joints would get the job done. 1/2" plywood Tops and 1/4" side "Skins" would also be adequate. I'd recommend coating it all with either the Old Timers Recipe or if you want to go all out use Epoxy. Since the seats are NOT that wide then a 1x3 on edge with a span of 30" or less will support a LOT of weight.

It took a long time for me to get all the angles and stuff right initially, but now that I have Tham all down it would be nothing to redo the construction using the 1x3s. I found some birch common boards 8 ft long for $1.22. Would that be ok? Or should I just take what I built apart and rip one inch off of it and put it back together.

 

[Corjen1]

Cool idea, it will look great!!!. If it was me, I would rip what you have and use WoGs old timer formula!!

 

[Woodonglass]

Yup, Especially if it's Douglas Fir!!! That's good water resistant wood. If It's white Pine then you might want to see if you could get some Fir or Southern Yellow Pine 1x material.

 

[tpenfield]

Seeing bare wood on a boat is very scary to me . . . Perhaps treat the wood framing with a water seal or polyurethane?

 

[steely85]

Ya. It's in my garage right now but I'm going to poly it and possibly fiberglass parts of it and fill all the joints with thickened resin. Then I'm going to gelcoat it. Try to make it look factory.

 

[Jarcher3]

I love the way it is starting to look in the boat, and yes it does seem like a lot of wasted space, but if it was any closer to the dash, you would hit your head on the window dute to its low profile. The newer boats have less of an angle on their windows. I wouldn't really consider it wasted space, I am 6 foot 3 and I will fit on the lounger just fine, and I am going to have the back pad open up into the huge cubby left below the dash. See I married a nurse and we always have lots of her female friends come with us when we are out on the boat. With females comes bags and bags and bags lol.... so the storage that will create will be more than welcome. We also have a 9 month old and all her stuff. I will fiberglass a new dash on the passenger side with a nice size glove box and phone charging station.

Ahh! storage space would be very nice. as someone who also married an nurse,(really just women in general) when we entertain her friends they all have bags.... lots of bags....i didnt even think of the windshield height, so ill retract that statement and just go with, Looks GREAT! i love the idea

 

[steely85]

Ok everyone. Once i have time I have a few pictures to share on my progress. I now have the floor fiber glassed and the walls, kick panels and bench glued in. I just have to hit everything with a layer or two of fiberglass to tab it to the deck. My question is, should I gel coat the floor before I glue the carpet in or is that just going overboard. I already have the carpet and outdoor carpet adhesive. Thanks again,

 

[Tnstratofam]

I would gelcoat first. I think if you don't the carpet glue would be a nightmare to get up not to mention the fiberglass needs the gelcoat for added protection. Especially on the deck.

 

[Baylinerchuck]

I am definitely gel coating before carpet. The gel coat is one more layer of protection, and a dang good sealer!!

 

[hvymtl939]

If you're going to all the work to do gel and make the floor nice, why not make your carpet snap in?

 

[Baylinerchuck]

If you're going to all the work to do gel and make the floor nice, why not make your carpet snap in?

As for my project.....glue in carpet is cheaper, and pretty easy to install. You need special backed carpet that is cut and bound for snap in. After that you have to drill holes on the floor for the snaps. I store my boat in a garage, so very easy to dry carpet for me. After much consideration, glue down in certain areas was the way to go for my boat.