1992 evinrude 200 problems

[v8etr]

I have a 92 evinrude 200xp it wouldn't get on plane I replaced the stator and the powerpack it will now get on plane just slow and will only rev to 5000 rpms with a 22 pitch raker prop. If anybody has any suggestions please throw them at me.
Thanks

 

[Joe Reeves]

Re: 1992 evinrude 200 problems

If you have proper compression and ignition (spark), I'd suggest that you check the fixed brass high speed jets that are located in the bottom center portion of the float chambers. They can, and do, become clogged.

Sorry to say that I don't have an accurate answer BUT...... let us know what boat (size/make) your engine is on as others may have a different line of thought.

 

[v8etr]

Re: 1992 evinrude 200 problems

Ok i forgot to mention that I installed carb. kits and blew all jets out. The engine has good compression, 95lbs. give or take a few on all cylinders. The boat is a 1992 bass cat pantera 2 and is 19 ft long. I will check spark and let you know.

 

[HighTrim]

Re: 1992 evinrude 200 problems

Also have a look at the condition of the plugs. If the spark is good and all cylinders are firing as they should you will need to look at the boat and/or the prop. First off, is this boat new to you? Was it running at a proper WOT RPM before if this is not your first season with it? If this is a new problem, I would check the boat and foam for water. It may be water logged. If not water logged, and the boat is new to you, you may want to try a different prop. For every 1" of pitch size, the effect will be approximately 200 RPM. In your case, your WOT RPM would be better around 5800 to 6000. The difference is around 800 RPM. That being said, take the difference of 800 and divide it by 200. The result is 4. The prop to use will be 4" in pitch less than the prop that was used.

 

[v8etr]

Re: 1992 evinrude 200 problems

The boat isn't water logged. I had that checked. It is new to me. I test drove the boat before i bought it and it ran fine. I use it for a month and then the problems start. I have checked with other people with that same motor and boat combo and they are running those rpms with a 25p prop. When I run the boat sometimes it will get on plane faster than others and sometimes it will not want to get on plane so I put it in neytral and rev the engine a little and then it will get on plane better. So you think a 22p prop is too big for my boat? The altitude is around 3700 feet here if that makes a difference. I was wondering on getting a lower pitch and maybe a four blade or hydrofoil??

 

[HighTrim]

Re: 1992 evinrude 200 problems

If the boat ran fine before, the problem is not your prop then. Did you check spark on all cylinders, especially when it is acting up? You may be dropping a cylinder while under load or when the ignition components warm up. Pulling the plug wires while under way will pin point the trouble cylinder. Use approved puller of course, unless you like getting shocked! If when you pull the boot off the plug, there is not a noticable difference in RPMs, that cylinder is dead and not firing. Normally, the RPMs will drop during this test.

 

[v8etr]

Re: 1992 evinrude 200 problems

I just checked spark and the number 1 and 2 cylinders didn't have spark, I swapped the leads from the powerpack and they then got spark. I am lost I checked the timer base with a multimeter and it was in spec. what else could it be??? I am going crazy, Please help!!!!!!!

 

[Joe Reeves]

Re: 1992 evinrude 200 problems

Your intitial post states that you've already replaced the powerpack, and your last post states that you've checked the timer base and it was within specifications. If that test was accurate, you've eliminated the possibility of having a faulty powerpack or timer base.

BUT you state that when you switch the leads from the powerpack to the coils, those previous non firing coils would then have spark.

That would indicate that the pins or sockets, whatever connectors are being used...... something at those connections are not making contact. Check closely all of the connectors between the timer base to the powerpack and from the powerpack to the coils.

It's possible that a error was made in testing the timer base, and/or the new powerpack is faulty but hopefully that is not the case.

 

[v8etr]

Re: 1992 evinrude 200 problems

I used a fluke miltimeter on testing the timer base. and yes I installed a new cdi powerpack and stator. I will recheck the timer base and look at all of the connectors. I could have made an error in my testing.

 

[v8etr]

Re: 1992 evinrude 200 problems

ok I recheked the timer base and all of the pastel colored wires were showing 2.1-2.3 ohms and the white wire to the black and white wire showed 223. I think this shows the timer base is bad doesn't it???

 

[v8etr]

Re: 1992 evinrude 200 problems

does anybody know??

 

[HighTrim]

Re: 1992 evinrude 200 problems

The typical range is 1M to 5M ohms. As long as you have approximately the same ohm reading on all six tests and the correct output with the DVA meter, the Timer-Base should be good.

Regarding the white wire to the black/white, the resistance should be 215 to 225, which you fall in.

Timer base looks good to me.

Did you simply sway the coils from a known good cylinder to a non firing one to see if it would now fire? If it does, the problem is your coil.

Also, do you have access to a DVA meter?

 

[HighTrim]

Re: 1992 evinrude 200 problems

I was just reading over the CDI troubleshooting matrix, and read the following, which may interest you.

"1991 and 1992 engines came out with a Black sleeved power pack (P/N 584122) and stator (P/N 584109) and used a P/N 584265 sensor. In 1993 the power packs were changed to a Gray sleeve (Production) power pack (P/N 584910). The stator was changed to a Gray sleeve (P/N 584981) and the sensor was changed to P/N 584914. Engines with ignition problems had a service replacement power pack with a blue sleeve and a replacement sensor installed as a set. The Blue sleeved power pack was only available as a service replacement. The Gray sleeved stator could be used with all of the power packs, but the Black sleeved stator was to be used only with a Black sleeved power pack. The sensor P/N changed to 586343 in the late 1990?s."

 

[v8etr]

Re: 1992 evinrude 200 problems

I dont have access to a dva meter. I will try to get one.

 

[v8etr]

Re: 1992 evinrude 200 problems

ok here is an update. I bought a good spark tester (not homemade like the last one) and all cylinders on port have a spark only every once in a while, all starboard have a good spark with tester set at 7/16. What should I look at?

 

[HighTrim]

Re: 1992 evinrude 200 problems

First thing that I would do is clean up the grounds on the coils. Actually take a file to them.

 

[v8etr]

Re: 1992 evinrude 200 problems

ok I took the power pack off ond put it back on again and I have spark to all cylinders except #6 I then cleaned all of the grounds even the coil grounds and I still have no spark on #6.

 

[CharlieB]

Re: 1992 evinrude 200 problems

No fire to #6

Swap #6 coil to another position, spark elsewhere proves the coil OK

Swap boxes side to side, if the problem moves then the box is bad

A DVA Meter and the CDI Troubleshooting Guide are the best resource for sorting out ignition problems.

Did you already replace this box? Just for giggles re-try your old box.

 

[v8etr]

Re: 1992 evinrude 200 problems

I swapped coils and no fire to #6. There is only one power pack on this model. I can try the old pack. I have a cdi troubleshooting guide but I don't have a dva meter yet. (soon)

 

[v8etr]

Re: 1992 evinrude 200 problems

anyone have any ideas?