1995 60hp 3 cyl evinrude pistons ,rods ,bearings etc need to know where to get from

[phillnjack2]

1995 evinrude 3cyl 60hp
model number BE60TLEOC.

Today i started to strip down my spare engine has it definitely needs a rebore, i knew this already as
when i got it the head was off and the pistons out etc.

The engine came as a spare with my other engine being a good running engine.

i will be taking my block once completely apart to a machine shop and hopefull get a rebore.

what i want to know is where is the best place to get the parts ?
no way am i going to pay the prices in the uk for brp parts, they are just too crazy over here.:mad-new:

I am hoping for about a 30 oversize, maybe even 40 oversize rebore unless its too bad and needs to
be re-sleeved.:facepalm:

If it needs to be re-sleeved and too expensive then it just might be used as spares alone.

I am hoping to get good decent parts and i know its not going to be on the cheap, but got to be better
than paying the prices BRP want in the uk.

I will be needing 3 complete piston set/rings etc and all the bearings and gaskets to do the job properly.

1 of my pistons might be ok and 2 rods might be ok, but atleast 1 piston is total scrap as is 1 rod due to
the rod being left in a bucket of water and going rusty.
The crank has also got a touch of light surface rust but i think 2 mins with wire woool will polish it back up nice.
there is no signs of wear on the crank journals, just a bit iof surface rust on the weights.
Two of the bores might even come up with a hone, but the middle one is scored a fair bit, it looks like
the VRO pump went bad and lack of oil done the damage.
The water pump is fine and all waterways nice and clear, thermostat was good etc.
Ive not opened the exhaust cover yet as it started to get dark and tommorow ill try and get that
undone and have a look in there.

When i recently tried the vro on my other engine the fuel side was bad and the oil side as well so im pretty sure ive found the problem to cause this damage in the first place.
Once i get the engine rebuilt it will be on pre-mix anyway with a new fuel pump (new but old style ) etc.

So now im just gonna be hunting around to try and find prices for parts.
any advice on parts and prices will be much apreciated, and any advice for when re-building will also be good.

this is the first time i will have re-built an outboard, so will probably be a learning curve.
Ive rebuilt engines before, but mainly auto engines and very small rc 2 strokes.

i think i have the tools to do the job, just gonna take my time and do my best with it.



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phill..........

 

[mark1961]

Re: 1995 60hp 3 cyl evinrude pistons ,rods ,bearings etc need to know where to get

I would suggest the iboats shop, not sure if they would have everything you need though......so


boatsdotnet.....marineengine......crowleymarine are three good online OEM parts sources. And yes, they all ship international.

 

[phillnjack2]

Re: 1995 60hp 3 cyl evinrude pistons ,rods ,bearings etc need to know where to get

iboats dont ship to uk

but ill have a look at the others and see what the prices are.

thanks for the info mark 1961


phill

 

[phillnjack2]

Re: 1995 60hp 3 cyl evinrude pistons ,rods ,bearings etc need to know where to get

I just looked at the prices from those three places

they will not be getting my business, far too expensive.


i would sooner use the block as a small coffee table than re-build at those prices.


phill

 

[mark1961]

Re: 1995 60hp 3 cyl evinrude pistons ,rods ,bearings etc need to know where to get

I just looked at the prices from those three places

they will not be getting my business, far too expensive.


i would sooner use the block as a small coffee table than re-build at those prices.


phill

A coffee table it will probably be......you might get lucky on ebay......sorry, i dont know anyone who would be willing to donate parts to your project. Fyi, the prices at boatsdotnet are about the best you will find from an online supplier......deal with em all the time.

iboats dont ship to uk
phill

Actually they do, the service is temporarily down though......

"iboats is currently unable to ship any orders outside of the United States and Canada. We are sorry for this inconvenience and we are working on restoring the service as soon as possible."

Prices would be similar to others.....and non OEM!

 

[Silvertip]

Re: 1995 60hp 3 cyl evinrude pistons ,rods ,bearings etc need to know where to get

Don't be so hasty to blame the vro. Vro failures cannot be limited to one cylinder. However, a buggered carb is the more logical reason for the failure.

 

[mark1961]

Re: 1995 60hp 3 cyl evinrude pistons ,rods ,bearings etc need to know where to get

Found this on ebay.....

OMC 3cyl Piston Kit .030" Oversize 436979 | eBay

Only one on ebay to stock these atm.

 

[phillnjack2]

Re: 1995 60hp 3 cyl evinrude pistons ,rods ,bearings etc need to know where to get

the one on ebay you put on is a cheap one yes.
boatsdotnet are actually more expensive than BRP for the same parts !!!!!

iboat have not done a postage to uk for ages, im always looking up their postal service.........

And yes it was 100% the fault of the VRO for the damage, the pump went bad at full throttle. as usual.

silvertip wrote....Vro failures cannot be limited to one cylinder.

OH yes they can,if you catch it quick before the others go bad, and being central it gonna go first.
all three have suffered, but the middle is the worst of them, the other 2 will hone out (hopefully).

Like on any engine when a rod goes through the block, its normally just 1 rod that goes through.
not 4 ,6 or 8 rods all going together, just the one !!!!!!!!!!!!!

phill

 

[mark1961]

Re: 1995 60hp 3 cyl evinrude pistons ,rods ,bearings etc need to know where to get

the one on ebay you put on is a cheap one yes.
boatsdotnet are actually more expensive than BRP for the same parts !!!!!
phill

I disagree phil, the RRP for one assembly from BRP is $114.97US......same thing from boatsdotnet is $93.12US and slightly cheaper again at marinengine and ishopmarine.....unsure where you're getting prices from mate but i'm sure we'd all like to know......care to share?

 

[fishfeatures]

Re: 1995 60hp 3 cyl evinrude pistons ,rods ,bearings etc need to know where to get

Found this on ebay.....

OMC 3cyl Piston Kit .030" Oversize 436979 | eBay

Only one in stock though.

Don't quite know what your after Phill , middle of the raod between Mark1961 suggestion and OEM?

OMC 3CYL Piston Kit 030" Oversize 436979 | eBay

at 55 dollars each and 40 for shipping equates to roughly ?125 , which may suit you.
other than that i have used both crowley and boatsdotnet for parts like you're after and have found them good and cheapest around other than fleabay. Outside of that if you find soemwhere better let ,me know unfortunately Iboats shipping is quite expensive to this side of the atlantic and that's why i use either of the 3 above.

 

[phillnjack2]

Re: 1995 60hp 3 cyl evinrude pistons ,rods ,bearings etc need to know where to get

am i missing something here
$55+$40 = ?125 ????? no wonder people have a go at the irish.
I make that $90 and thats roughly ?55 now ?125.....
Now this bloke has only got one of them anyway, i need 3 of them and a whole lot of other stuff.
crowlely are expensive as theyare just selling brp parts,same with the other 2.
if i want to buy brp then i can get that here for a bit cheaper .
The postage is a killer from the usa and when i want a lot of stuff i have totake this into account.
BUT using crowley go check out what it comes to to buy all you need for a re-build, its mental and would cost ?1200.
Its less than that to buy from brp in the uk ,im not even adding postage to it yet.

none of the 3 above are cheap on any of the parts, go check them out,everything they sell is individual and not kits.
you buy a piston and you get a piston, not piston rings wristpin and small ends and circlips.

I think ill be going with high performance and custom built parts, cheaper and better.

i think fishfeatures you need to look around the net bigtime as the three mentioned above
are not cheap in any way.


phill

 

[fishfeatures]

Re: 1995 60hp 3 cyl evinrude pistons ,rods ,bearings etc need to know where to get

am i missing something here
$55+$40 = ?125 ????? no wonder people have a go at the irish.
I make that $90 and thats roughly ?55 now ?125.....
Now this bloke has only got one of them anyway, i need 3 of them and a whole lot of other stuff.
crowlely are expensive as theyare just selling brp parts,same with the other 2.
if i want to buy brp then i can get that here for a bit cheaper .
The postage is a killer from the usa and when i want a lot of stuff i have totake this into account.
BUT using crowley go check out what it comes to to buy all you need for a re-build, its mental and would cost ?1200.
Its less than that to buy from brp in the uk ,im not even adding postage to it yet.

none of the 3 above are cheap on any of the parts, go check them out,everything they sell is individual and not kits.
you buy a piston and you get a piston, not piston rings wristpin and small ends and circlips.

I think ill be going with high performance and custom built parts, cheaper and better.

i think fishfeatures you need to look around the net bigtime as the three mentioned above
are not cheap in any way.


phill

Phill my good man, the above is dollars then converted to pounds for your convienvce... my link has 10 sets for sale....and i do shop about a good bit Phill, as you cannot touch the BRP dealers here either as they are just ridiculous with price. My last rebuild I actually shipped in a powerhead from the states, it only worked out at something around 300 Euro total!, took a chance on it after speakling to the seller and got lucky , compression was great and it came with all ancillaries, haven't looked back since.

I know the other sites are a bit dear but unless you get lucky on Gumtree or boatsandoutboards or something then there is very little option left. You can try the marien dealers in the uk for parts from old motors they may have lying out back but from my experience over here , they charge well over the odds for second hand parts too. Sometimes a calling direct to the overseas guys help with postage fees.


Wiseco do forged oversize piston kits in the US , why not try their UK office and see what they say to you ????

Eastwood Racing Honda

 

[phillnjack2]

Re: 1995 60hp 3 cyl evinrude pistons ,rods ,bearings etc need to know where to get

it just seems strange that all these sites seem to be selling BRP parts.
i am trying to find other makers of the parts, some or rubbish i know ,but many are cheaper and better.
I used to know a few different companies but they seem to have disapeared.

i shall have to keep looking and find somewhere who does a complete rebuild kit, there used to be
lots of places that one this.
Buying every individual part is crazy way of re-building anything.

postage is the main probalem as many places dont want to know about uk postage.

recently we got a thermostat kit from the us, the price including postage was ?27.
these were genuine parts.
the uk price for just 1 thermostat on its own is ?22.
the kit we got from the states has 2 thermostats 2 large gaskets,2 springs,2 relief valves and 4 small seals.
this would of cost in excess of ?55 in the uk.

this is the type of deal im looking for with a complete engine re-build kit, somebody must do one.


phill

 

[WernerF]

Re: 1995 60hp 3 cyl evinrude pistons ,rods ,bearings etc need to know where to get

German prices for marine parts are absurd as well.
I've ordered quite a number of OMC parts from US Ebay sellers without any problems. They deliver quickly, so delivery time depends on your local customs authorities. One time I had been waiting for 5 weeks. Most of the shipments are declared correctly, so you may have to pay import sales tax or something similar. I don't know the UK situation.
Yes shipment is expensive. But it can be worth it if you gather several parts from the same seller. I think 3x 55$ + 47$ is ok from a German point of view.

 

[mark1961]

Re: 1995 60hp 3 cyl evinrude pistons ,rods ,bearings etc need to know where to get

none of the 3 above are cheap on any of the parts, go check them out,everything they sell is individual and not kits.
you buy a piston and you get a piston, not piston rings wristpin and small ends and circlips.
phill

Slow down and interpret properly mate, the listings say "piston and ring assembly" which i would say includes the wristpin and clips (no bearing) as per the ebay listing for that particular part number.

The ones on ebay look like a good option to me, there are 10 available not 1.....im sure he would do you a deal on shipping if you take three off his hands.

 

[phillnjack2]

Re: 1995 60hp 3 cyl evinrude pistons ,rods ,bearings etc need to know where to get

wel it turns out they are just pistons and rings by the way, same as in the brp catalogue,
the ring and piston only is called assembly for some strange reason.
I would of expected an assembly to be rings piston and small ends to be honest,with gudgeon pin an extra.

Anyway,far too expensive.
This has to be my best option, far cheaper than trying to buy seperate items.
postage is not to bad niether.

check this out, a complete rebuild kit
price is ... $522.09 + $106.15 post = $628.24 us dollar or ?320.89 + ?53.78 post total ?374.67 uk pound .!!!!!!!!!

Johnson / Evinrude Powerhead Rebuild Kit - 3 Cylinder | eBay

i dont think that can be beaten, and is lot lot cheaper than anything else ive found so far.

As soon as i can get to the garage and get the block stripped and see if it can be bored, i will be
ordering one of these kits.(unless anyone has had bad experience with their items ofcourse)
just hoping i can source a rod or 2 cheap because im pretty sure 2 are bad, left in water to rust be for i got it.



phill

 

[mark1961]

Re: 1995 60hp 3 cyl evinrude pistons ,rods ,bearings etc need to know where to get

I too doubt that can be topped.....nice find!! He seems to sell alot of sierra stuff on the rest of the site so im guessing thats what this is......cant argue with the price.

Maybe source some good used rods?

 

[Faztbullet]

Re: 1995 60hp 3 cyl evinrude pistons ,rods ,bearings etc need to know where to get

He seems to sell alot of sierra stuff so im guessing thats what this is......cant argue with the price.

This is a WSM kit.... the same kit I sell for $745 but my kit comes with impeller, t-stat, 3 carb kits, new mounting bolts and a 6ml tube of red gasket maker.

 

[mark1961]

Re: 1995 60hp 3 cyl evinrude pistons ,rods ,bearings etc need to know where to get

This is a WSM kit.... the same kit I sell for $745 but my kit comes with impeller, t-stat, 3 carb kits, new mounting bolts and a 6ml tube of red gasket maker.

You might want to send a PM phils way then......

 

[fishfeatures]

Re: 1995 60hp 3 cyl evinrude pistons ,rods ,bearings etc need to know where to get

phill I may have 2 rods lying around , you can have them for nothing if you'll pay postage.