2-strokes legal indefinitely?

[QC]

Re: 2-strokes legal indefinitely?

If Evinrude can get their E-TEC DFI two strokes down to 25 HP,then why can't Mercury do that with the Optimax? That may be another whole topic separate from this one,but think about it. Both brands are 3-star EPA rated on their DFI two strokes,so why not?

The answer is almost always development cost/number of incremental unit sales. If you (marketing boy wonder) can walk into the right office, at fill in the blank company and convince them of the validity of your forecast, and confirm the development costs and show a return on the investment that equals or exceeds the minimum threshold established by fill in the blank company for capital expenditures, then they will do it. There are other factors like Merc would probably say no to a new lawn mower plan as it is outside their core business, but all companies pretty much operate this way, small and large. Those that don't either get lucky or go broke.

My guess is that they see that market served by their existing 4 strokes and that there is not a lot of opportunity to take sales away from anybody else and there is no growth to capture from either without severe discounting, so why do it? The only reason then might be to hurt competition which is another possible reason if it doesn't cost too much . . .

 

[freddyray21]

Re: 2-strokes legal indefinitely?

I think the poll is somewhat lacking. I voted that 2 strokes will always be around because while I think they will eventually get banned on most lakes I think in the ocean they will still be allowed so for all practical purposes they will for me, but not for all.

 

[geordybass]

Re: 2-strokes legal indefinitely?

Yes I want to see a "cash-for-Clunkers" thing for outboards. If they make me do a smog check on my motors I will run them at 25:1...lol...

I want a TLDI or ETEC on the back of my 17' whaler!!

 

[QC]

Re: 2-strokes legal indefinitely?

For me the point I have been poorly making this whole thread is that even if you came up with a 3 stroke, ultimately "tailpipe" emissions will matter. Common sense is prevailing, as bizarre as that might seem . . .

 

[vegasphotoman]

Re: 2-strokes legal indefinitely?

wow crazy thread....

..luv the govt... not!

Called a Torqeedo and runs on 48v(they also have a 24v comparable to a 5hp) lithium-manganese batteries.

by cheapboatKev

Ever heard of Li-Poly batteries..(lithium polymer) if not you will soon enough.........serious power!

once superconducting metals are perfected (if ever), add that to a brushless electric motor and some solar...... "cheaper" electrics will take off........ atleast for lower hp rigs under 30hp........ more horsepower as demand grows... and technology advances...

it is only a matter of time before the expotentially growing population of the world depletes the oil / coal reserves
or it gets too expensive, and electric is actually cheaper...thats when the real switch will happen..

dont get me wrong I love my gas powered everything....but electric stuff is cool too! I would miss the sound....other times it would be nice to have the quiet......either way it is coming...something is coming...mebbe the corn oil will be the future...right now E84 or what have ya is garbage...my 2007 F150 Super crew truck got 12 to 14mpg on gas, I tried the E gas once...it Cost way more in miles per gallon, I got like 7 to 8 MPG! that is garbage! it dont work! alcohol make the motor run like garbage too....we get it in Vegas every fall -thru spring...its bad gas!

..could always add a noisemaker to the electrics...like adding a playing card to your bicycle frame with a clothspin... = kids motorcycle sound yea!