2004 bayliner classic 195

[vipertblck]

Re: 2004 bayliner classic 195

As im browsing around more and more I'm finding out that the sea water pump propeller is something to be changed yearly. Seems it involves taking the lower portion of the outdrive off and the pump is then tucked inside of there bolted onto the lower portion. Is this true? I'm assuming this particular boat it's just fine because the lower portion of the outdrive was replaced end of season last year. Just trying to learn what types of items need be replaced/maintained yearly so I know what to look and ask for when I go look at this boat.

 

[bruceb58]

Re: 2004 bayliner classic 195

I would change it anyway. Takes 30 seconds of someone running it without water...just once and it is toast. Its very easy to change. Many Youtube videos describing it.

Not sure it needs to be changed every year but maybe every 3.

 

[oldjeep]

Re: 2004 bayliner classic 195

x2 More like every 3 years unless you do something dumb like fire it up dry. I've changed 3 out of my Bayliner and not one of them looked like it needed to be replaced.

The yearly stuff is - change the oil/filter and change the drive lube - manual says drive lube every 2 years, but its a quick job and will let you know if you have any water issues. Edit: looks like every year in the manual

Trailer hubs - depends on who you ask. I clean and repack, new seals every 2-3 years and don't mess with them in between without any issues.

Other than that - plugs/wires/cap/fuel filters on whatever the maint schedule is. You can get a pretty decent deal from Michigan motorz on a kit containing all of the tuneup stuff when the time comes.

 

[vipertblck]

Re: 2004 bayliner classic 195

x2 More like every 3 years unless you do something dumb like fire it up dry. I've changed 3 out of my Bayliner and not one of them looked like it needed to be replaced.

The yearly stuff is - change the oil/filter and change the drive lube - manual says drive lube every 2 years, but its a quick job and will let you know if you have any water issues.

Trailer hubs - depends on who you ask. I clean and repack, new seals every 2-3 years and don't mess with them in between without any issues.

Other than that - plugs/wires/cap/fuel filters on whatever the maint schedule is. You can get a pretty decent deal from Michigan motorz on a kit containing all of the tuneup stuff when the time comes.

Once again great info! That's all for the yearly stuff? I figured it would be a lot more but that's easy enough. How about greasing u-joints that require entire outdrive removal, how often do you guys suggest those? I"ll run it by the guy and call the marina that did the work for the lower end and see if it had a new water pump, otherwise it sounds and looks(according to youtube) easy enough to pull the lower portion off and once you're past getting it off everything else looks pretty simple.

 

[oldjeep]

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Once again great info! That's all for the yearly stuff? I figured it would be a lot more but that's easy enough. How about greasing u-joints that require entire outdrive removal, how often do you guys suggest those? I"ll run it by the guy and call the marina that did the work for the lower end and see if it had a new water pump, otherwise it sounds and looks(according to youtube) easy enough to pull the lower portion off and once you're past getting it off everything else looks pretty simple.

The U-joints in the newer models are sealed - no zerks
Every 200 hrs or 3 years
Inspect u-joints (make sure they move decently) (remove upper)
Inspect bellows
check alignment (if the upper slips right back in - it is aligned, otherwise you need an alignment bar and an adjustment) 9 years later mine has never required an adjustment

Every 300 hrs or 3 years
Check engine mounts for tightness
Check electrical system for loose damaged corroded fasteners
Check cooling system hoses and clamps
Check seawater pump and replace worn components (impeller)

 

[oldjeep]

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The other thing you will see on iBoats a lot is bellows replacement. This seems to depend on where you live. Up here the local dealer says that the bellows are good for 15-20 years - at 9 years mine are still perfect. In the south where your tennis shoes rot out in a year from the air, it sounds like you are lucky to get 10 years out of them.

 

[bruceb58]

Re: 2004 bayliner classic 195

check alignment (if the upper slips right back in - it is aligned, otherwise you need an alignment bar and an adjustment) 9 years later mine has never required an adjustment

Just because the drive slips back on does not mean its aligned. I pull my drive off every year and check alignment with an alignment bar. The most important reason for pulling the drive every year is to check for water in the bellows. If you get water in the bellows, water will enter the drive and then you just wiped out a $5K or more drive. It takes an hour to do this once you get good at it.

I change my bellows every 5 years. That was DonS's recommendation as well.

See post #5
http://forums.iboats.com/mercruiser-i-o-inboard-engines-outdrives/bellows-treatment-386561.html

If you keep your drive stored in the down position, that also helps the bellows last longer.

 

[oldjeep]

Re: 2004 bayliner classic 195

Just because the drive slips back on does not mean its aligned. I pull my drive off every year and check alignment with an alignment bar. The most important reason for pulling the drive every year is to check for water in the bellows. If you get water in the bellows, water will enter the drive and then you just wiped out a $5K or more drive. It takes an hour to do this once you get good at it.

I change my bellows every 5 years. That was DonS's recommendation as well.

See post #5
http://forums.iboats.com/mercruiser-i-o-inboard-engines-outdrives/bellows-treatment-386561.html

If you keep your drive stored in the down position, that also helps the bellows last longer.

Like I said, folks in the south are crazy about bellows. If you suggested a 5 year replacement to a mercruiser mechanic up here they would laugh you out of the shop or gratefully accept the money you were wasting. The inspection spec is 3 years

 

[bruceb58]

Re: 2004 bayliner classic 195

Like I said, folks in the south are crazy about bellows. If you suggested a 5 year replacement to a mercruiser mechanic up here they would laugh you out of the shop or gratefully accept the money you were wasting. The inspection spec is 3 years

DonS was in Alaska and Washington. Not sure if that is exactly south.

I think I will keep taking his advice.

 

[oldjeep]

Re: 2004 bayliner classic 195

DonS was in Alaska and Washington. Not sure if that is exactly south.

I think I will keep taking his advice.

Alaska and Seattle = salt water. In no way the same as inland lake boating. There is a whole other maint schedule for salt

 

[redneck joe]

Re: 2004 bayliner classic 195

and it helps to store with the outdrive in the down position.

 

[vipertblck]

Re: 2004 bayliner classic 195

Still tossin it around with the purchase of this boat. Just came across another question while doing research online. I read a lot about shift cables and throttle cables being replaced on boats, why is this?

 

[tazrig]

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Still tossin it around with the purchase of this boat. Just came across another question while doing research online. I read a lot about shift cables and throttle cables being replaced on boats, why is this?

They stretch out over time and become too loose to effectively work.

 

[vipertblck]

Re: 2004 bayliner classic 195

They stretch out over time and become too loose to effectively work.

What are signs they are worn out/stretched? Will it just plain not go into gear while on trailer in the drive way?

 

[oldjeep]

Re: 2004 bayliner classic 195

Still tossin it around with the purchase of this boat. Just came across another question while doing research online. I read a lot about shift cables and throttle cables being replaced on boats, why is this?

Bigger issue on OMC equipped boats, but can happen with a mercruiser too. Besides stretching they can sometimes seize up from lack of lubrication/contamination.

 

[bruceb58]

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What are signs they are worn out/stretched?

Won't hold an adjustment is a sign.

 

[redneck joe]

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they aren't hard or expensive, I wouldn't worry too much about that

 

[Maclin]

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Viper, you may have been hearing or reading about some years of OMC Cobras that have a very specific adjustment process for those cables. For those the exact procedure must be followed or there will be shifting problems in the water.

 

[bruceb58]

Re: 2004 bayliner classic 195

Mercruiser cables go out as well. Had one go out on us many years ago.

 

[vipertblck]

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Sounds like nothing important to worry about, that's good! I'm tryin to search around online for any info so I don't bombard this threat with every single question, but when I come across certain things I like to ask you guys. I've never had a boat so this is all new to me, but I've worked on vehicle and do majority of work myself so mechanically I can understand all these things on boats I think. Talked to the guy with this Bayliner again today and it sounds like he might let it go for $7000 stating in the contract/bill of sale he guarantees the hull is great shape with no signs of soft spots/rot. Of course I'd wanna see it run and go into gears in the driveway, but am still uneasy of buying a boat this time of year without a sea trial. Guess that could always make the price a lil cheaper if he wants to sell it now instead of wait, it's a risk for me to buy without sea trialing.