33 h.p sea horse 1966 spark plugs ??

[talitje]

Hallo , i have a litle (or verry big) problem , i recently bought a 33 h.p (with a hood of a 40)and if i put the spark plugs (short shaft) QL77jc4 and gaped them (2 cilinder)and put them in , and cranked the engine , it wil not run ,and after checking the plugs for fuel , i noticed that both pistons have hit the spark plugs , and closed the gap to 0,00 mm , i put in 2 (new)plugs from another engine , with solid gap , i mean those spark plugs without gapping posibility , because ther is no gap the spark plugs are 3 mm shorter , and the pistons dont hit them (UL18V), after cranking the engine ,the engine started and idelt for 6 seconds with a lots of smoke , my bad mix oil /fuel was 20:1 , i know now that the mix has to be 50:1 , but what about the spark plugs , what do i have to put in , compresion is very high , the engine sounded very good ,smooth for 6 seconds ,and then it stalled , i am trying to get the flywheel of to take a look under the flywheel ,to clean points or check the points , touch flywheel,does not want to come of , i would like any kind of information that could help me , figure this out , thank you for reading and greetings info i got on my engine is : year 1966 model RX14 h.p 33

 

[bubbakat]

Re: 33 h.p sea horse 1966 spark plugs ??

It is indeed a 1966<br />use a champion j4c gap at 30<br /><br />you can gap these at 35 and makes them idle a little better<br /><br />fuel mix will be 50:1

 

[rolmops]

Re: 33 h.p sea horse 1966 spark plugs ??

Hallo.<br />Je moet inderdaad the Champion j4c met een opening van 0.030 inch.Dat is plus minus 0.76 milimeter.Deze champion bougies zijn speciaal voor water gekoelde 2 stroke machines.Er is een goed boek voor je buiten boord.Het is van Seloc publicaties.het heet "Johnson/Evinrude Outboard Volume 1" van 1956 tot 1970.Aan de linker onderkant van deze pagina is een button die heet "repair manuals",daar kun je hem bestellen.Het is voor doe het zelvers met veel uitleg en foto's.1:50 is goed voor je machine.Wees niet te haastig met vliegwiel eraf halen.Je bent waarschijnlijk beter at met eerst verse mix te maken en er een carburator schoonmaak middel aan toe te voegen.Niet proberen de motor the starten met ether!(er zit geen olie in).Als je iets in de carburator wil spuiten neem dan gewoon de mix die je gemaakt hebt in een spuitfles en spuit het in de mond van de carburator.Als hij daarmee start,maar niet als je gewoon probeert te starten, dan weet je dat je je carburator moet schoon maken en dat de rest allemaal goed is.Als je probeert deze motor te starten moet je hem in een vat met water dat de lower unit onder water laat zitten ,of met "oorwarmers" die water in de pomp spuiten,anders gaat je impeller kapot binnen 5 seconden.Als mijn Nederlands roestig is is het omdat ik het al 40 jaar niet meer gebruik.<br />Heb er plezier mee.

 

[bubbakat]

Re: 33 h.p sea horse 1966 spark plugs ??

rolmops that is outstanding. I do admire you

 

[rolmops]

Re: 33 h.p sea horse 1966 spark plugs ??

Don't be impressed,Bubbakat.When I was a kid we lived in Holland a few years and I learned the language.

 

[talitje]

Re: 33 h.p sea horse 1966 spark plugs ??

Thank you for the fast reaction MR Bubbakat & MR Rolmops , that was quit impresive Rolmops , you are right (Rolmops)) about: dont starting without fuel mix , i would not dare (i own a RD-500 V4 2 stroke)and yes the first thing i did was , put the engine (intake water)al the way in a barrel with water,cleaned the carb squized a litle mix in (wrong mix, 20:1 )the carb , by the air filter and in the spark plugs hole before putting in the plugs it started , i stopped disasembeling the fly wheel and asembeled it back , because i have a good spark alright ,i just orderd 2 spark plugs <br />j4c and if ngk its B7S , monday noon i wil get them , i already made a good fuel mix 25:1/2 and yes i would like to order the book but dont own a creditcard (i'm only 33) and i prefere wiring cash to an acount and then get my stuf because i see many people getting in trouble with credit cards ,i never had one , maybe i'l consider taking one only to order murchandise , 1 more question the 2 idle screws (air and Fuel) should they be over half way in or out ? in is lean out is rich , for starters what should it be ? thank you guys again for reading and reacting , p.s Rolmops I boat on the river The Maas in a spitfire 2,60 m its a 2 seater , howdoe !

 

[rolmops]

Re: 33 h.p sea horse 1966 spark plugs ??

De bovenste sproeier is voor de laagst mogelijke snelheid en ijdelen.De onderste is voor maximum snelheid.Draai de bovenste handvast en daarna anderhalve slag open.Draai de onderste hand vast en daarna 3/4 slag open.Neem de motor en boot in het water(niet in een vat)en start de motor op ijdel snelheid en vaar voorwaarts.Draai nu de bovenste sproeier langzaam dicht tot de motor begint te stotteren,draai nu een 1/4 slag terug naar open.de bovenste sproeier is klaar.Zet nu de motor op maximum en voorwaarts.Draai nu de onderste sproeier(needle valve)verder dicht tot de motor het hoogste rpm heeft.Dit kan alleen als de boot vaart anders krijg je nooit de goede opening.Als laatste punt.Neem 2 pilsjes 1 voor jou en 1 voor mij en drink ze.

 

[talitje]

Re: 33 h.p sea horse 1966 spark plugs ??

Thank you i will do just that , i am getting smarter over here , i wil reply after i put in the new plugs , now up to the 2 brusky's i ow you Rolmops , doei !!

 

[OBJ]

Re: 33 h.p sea horse 1966 spark plugs ??

Keep talkin' rolmops....ya' got a lotta' beer lovers here on the forums!!

 

[rolmops]

Re: 33 h.p sea horse 1966 spark plugs ??

Hello OBJ.<br />I figured you would get that part!

 

[talitje]

Re: 33 h.p sea horse 1966 spark plugs ??

Hallo Rolmops , and the rest , i got the spark plugs ,J4c , $5,- for 2 , gapped them at 0,80 mm (0,030 inch) and they both got a firm bleu(not orange) spark , and the pistons dont touch the plugs . totaly difrent spark plugs then y use on my 25 h.p from the 80's , trying to start the engine again , y got another question : is there a difrence between squizing the fuel/oil: mix at the air intake or squizing it in the spark plug holes, before i put the spark plugs in ? silly question maybe ? but i wonder . greetings and thanks a lot

 

[rolmops]

Re: 33 h.p sea horse 1966 spark plugs ??

When you spray into the air intake you lubricate the engine innards and the fuel air mix will enter the cylinder during the upward stroke.When you just dump it in the plug hole it may be on its way out before ever having been close to any spark.

 

[talitje]

Re: 33 h.p sea horse 1966 spark plugs ??

okay i'l get on to it squizing in the , mix by the intake (air filter,thats just a plastic gril), its(sounds) logical what youre telling me , i just did not think about it that way , thanks a lot ,Rolmops , i'l be carrying on , later on i wil reply , if i got it running