35 HP Gale WOT 7MPH???

[F_R]

Re: 35 HP Gale WOT 7MPH???

Don't be doing something dumb and stupid. I mean, don't be running out and buying a new regulator till you know you need one. There are established troubleshooting methods for that system y'know. The absolute first question I would have is the 4-amp field fuse--is it blown or corroded in the fuse holder?

Make sure you know what you are doing before troubleshooting. You can do serious and expensive damage with just a nano-second of carelessness.

 

[Willyclay]

Re: 35 HP Gale WOT 7MPH???

F R, I'm glad you jumped in to help and keep us all on the right course!

 

[paraord]

Re: 35 HP Gale WOT 7MPH???

I thought it was my God given right as a 23 year old to be dumb and stupid haha. I was planning on testing the regulator with a multi-meter. I replaced the fuses as one of the first things I did getting into the junction box. I didnt notice any corrosion but I will check again when I get home. Is it the same process as with a rectifier with a regulator to see if it is good or not?


Oh yea, on a scale of 1 to 10 for a fairly mechanically inclined person how hard would it be to do a complete lower unit seal kit on this? I have replaced water impellers before on 6hp and 9.5s. While im in there I was planning on replacing that as well.

 

[F_R]

Re: 35 HP Gale WOT 7MPH???

A rectifier and a DC voltage regulator are not even remotely related, nor are there any similarities in operation or testing.

Do you think you have the correct regulator? Many people try to use a car regulator and find out that it won't work. The correct one is made by Auto-Lite or Prestolite and has a decal warning not to connect the Bat terminal to the Fld terminal. But some car regulators say that too. That decal alone doesn't make it an outboard regulator.

Send me your e-mail address if you want the troubleshooting instructions. Remind me what you are looking for when you do---I get a lot of PM's and e-mails.

 

[paraord]

Re: 35 HP Gale WOT 7MPH???

PM sent-

 

[paraord]

Re: 35 HP Gale WOT 7MPH???

So I have started dissemblance of the lower unit for a lower unit seals kit which I am picking up tomorrow. Yes I am doing it for a reason not just to do it, the usual milky oil, and while im in there ill do the impeller (which actually doesnt look to bad but better safe than sorry). F R thanks again for the help I will get to testing the tomorrow as well.

 

[Willyclay]

Re: 35 HP Gale WOT 7MPH???

I didnt notice any corrosion but I will check again when I get home.

The corrosion may not be obvious! I had corrosion in the wire connections of an in-line fuse holder and it would check OK for continuity but would not allow the proper voltage to pass. Drove me a little crazy until I eliminated everything else. Hang in there, you are doing great!

 

[paraord]

Re: 35 HP Gale WOT 7MPH???

Lower unit seals done. Not too bad at all really. the hardest part was removing the drive shaft seal and the seal to the prop and that wasnt that hard. Does anyone know the torque for the lower unit bolts?

 

[Willyclay]

Re: 35 HP Gale WOT 7MPH???

Fast work on the lower unit. OMC lists all their torque values according to size of the fasteners unless noted otherwise. I have the specs in my manual. Will send them to you. What size is the shank of the bolts, not the hex head?

 

[paraord]

Re: 35 HP Gale WOT 7MPH???

7/16th head 1 inch length 1/4-20 thread. Ya know I really dont see why people are scared of lower unit seals and such, all you gotta do is look, think, and dont go all gung ho and pull everything apart without seeing what goes where and understanding why. Also Willy those schematics really helped too thanks again.

 

[campione]

Re: 35 HP Gale WOT 7MPH???

This is a great site!

I currently have the same motor, gale 35 hp ob, i believe to be 1960 (35de13bl). when looking for parts, what make and model should i use?

thankc

kc

 

[campione]

Re: 35 HP Gale WOT 7MPH???

This is a great site!

I currently have the same motor, gale 35 hp ob, i believe to be 1960 (35de13bl). when looking for parts, what make and model should i use?

thankc

kc

 

[paraord]

Re: 35 HP Gale WOT 7MPH???

The model you use should be your model. The local marina owner knows Gale so i lucked out there. Im not sure if they have Gale parts in a section here on Iboats, but you can get them at maxrules.com Then cross reference the part number for anywhere. Glad to see someone else has one of these motors. And welcome to iboats.

 

[Willyclay]

Re: 35 HP Gale WOT 7MPH???

7/16th head 1 inch length 1/4-20 thread.

Here are the torque specs:

NOTE: All values are Inch-Pounds

No.6=7-10, No.8=15-22, No.10=25-35, No.12=35-40

1/4in=60-80, 5/16in=120-140, 3/8in=220-240

Before you put it back together, OMC specifies those fasteners be "dipped in OMC Gasket Sealing Compound" before tightening to the specified torque. Maybe another member can tell us what currently available product is equivalent. Good luck!

 

[CATransplant]

Re: 35 HP Gale WOT 7MPH???

Good job on those torque settings. Here's another point:

If you use normal hand box or combination wrenches to tighten fasteners, you'll discover that there's a reason they're the length they are. Each is designed to product the proper torque for a given-sized fastener when you use them. When you apply force to these wrenches, they will feel "tight" at about the right torque.

Not so with a typical ratchet handle. For example, a 3/8 drive ratchet can easily over-torque smaller fasteners. Compare a 7/16" box or combination wrench's length with a typical 3/8" ratchet. It's easy to twist off a 1/4" fastener with a 3/8" ratchet, but hard to do so with a 7/16" combination wrench.

It's a learned thing, though. The more wrenching you do, the better you'll be able to feel the right torque using hand tools.

 

[F_R]

Re: 35 HP Gale WOT 7MPH???

This is a great site!

I currently have the same motor, gale 35 hp ob, i believe to be 1960 (35de13bl). when looking for parts, what make and model should i use?

thankc

kc

For many but not all parts, just use 1957 Johnson or Evinrude 35hp book. If the part is the same, the number will be the same. Of course you have a 3 year newer motor, so some parts have evolved. In 1965 J/E resurrected the Gale 35 and called it a 33hp.

If you really want the correct part numbers, get the correct Gale book. They are available, y'know.

 

[paraord]

Re: 35 HP Gale WOT 7MPH???

Thanks for those torque settings Willy. And thanks CAT for that advise thats somethign to remember as well. what do you guys think I should put on the threads?

 

[Willyclay]

Re: 35 HP Gale WOT 7MPH???

Amazingly, the recommended stuff is stiil available! BRP/OMC p/n 0508235. See link below:

http://www.go2marine.com/product.do?no=78394F

There are some alternatives discussed in the old forum thread below:

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=183138

What a great resource the iboats.com forum is!

 

[paraord]

Re: 35 HP Gale WOT 7MPH???

Absolutley it is, I can honestly say I wouldnt have attempted half the things I have without you guys here on iboats. And of what I have done you all have made it so much better by providing so much information. Thanks again everyone.
Also Willy I will see if i can pick up sone of that in the next few days.

and just another side note im going to pick up an omc metal gas tank tonight for ten bucks! I like the metal ones better and it will be nice to have 2 tanks on the back of the boat. I am going to try to strap them down using the hardware from a battery box hold down kit.

 

[paraord]

Re: 35 HP Gale WOT 7MPH???

so ten bucks for one gas tank turned into 15 bucks for 3. I am totally ok with that deal I would say.