65 ETEC won't start

Platypus E65

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My 65 exec was running fine last year and ever since then has been sitting inside for the winter. I didn't do any winterizations to it and now it won't start up. I thought it would be the kill switch shorting so I tried cutting the wires and still it didn't start up. I used new gas and from what I could tell the filter was getting gas whenever I primed the the bulb. I also changed the spark plugs before using it last year. Any ideas on what else I should try? Bringing it to a dealer is not an option since it would cost a lot sending it by air.
 

82rude

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65 etec?didn't know they made one.i got the 60 then it goes to 75 .any who, check the fuse under the cowling.if it is the fuse that still doesn't solve why it blew.mine it was that I shorted the tac underpower .better to blow a fuse than any of the other elects under that cowl.
 

Platypus E65

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Yep, BRP made a 65. I have the manual tilt, rope start model. The fuse wasn't burnt out. I tried a spark test on the top cylinder and there seems to be none. I'll try the lower one later today. Faulty coils?
 

racerone

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The " commercial " 65 E-TEC was made for those hard working / muscular men who do not want electric start.
 

82rude

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ya,I found it after looking for a while.me I will take e start all day .
 

daselbee

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What's priceless? Nobody ever posts model numbers, and here we have a guy wanting to have his questions answered on a motor that is rare.

That's what's priceless. Karnak says......:confused::confused::confused::confused:
 

Platypus E65

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Sorry about that. I have a lot on my mind lately. First my snow machine broke down, got fixed and then promptly got broken. I also have a commercial 55 outboard that just broke down and now this happening with my ETEC 65. BTW It's the 2007 E65WDRLSCS model. Anyway, I think I'll ship it out to get it going again, it's due for the 3 year servicing anyway. Thanks everyone for trying to help me.

I didn't even know the 65 was rare motor. If I knew then what I know now I would've bought something else.
 

daselbee

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Aw Boobie....don't tell me yours have crystallized.....

Anyway...here is what I know about ETec, and it is not much....
I hope it helps you in some preliminary diagnosis.

1. You have to get it on a computer to see if there any stored codes. If you don't have the software, then it is off to the dealer you go.

Here is where you can try some diagnosis.

2. You must have spark. Use an open air spark gap tester to see if it is sparking. If not, you still have mostly dealer diagnosis process ahead.

3. But, fuel.....now here is the question. On 2005 75 Etec, the High pressure fuel pump only runs when the starter is engaged, and after it starts.
I suspect the same for yours, but HOW? You got a rope start. "So the hp fuel pump only pumps when you are roping it over????" That's my question.
Since this engine is so rare, I would have to assume that is the case. I mean, do you even have a key? Is there a battery in this system?

If you have a key and battery, with key ON....

Put a 12v meter positive lead on the black hp fuel pump power wire and the negative meter lead to ground. Note the voltage (should be 12v), and then rope it. As the engine turns over, the voltage should go to zero. The EMM turns on the hp pump by providing ground to that black wire THRU the EMM.

If it does, then maybe the pump itself is locked up, and will not turn. I would then use a 12v battery, and apply 12v in the correct polarity directly to the hp fuel pump power wires. see if you hear the pump spinning. If not, then the hp fuel pump is probably locked up, which I have seen before.

If you have proper power response on those hp fp power wires when roping it, and if the pump is spinning, then again....we are back to the dealer for diag and repair.

The software can force the pump ON, it can cycle the injectors, it can cycle the oil pump, all of which you can use to determine the diagnosis.

Oh yeah, check every fuse on it. Maybe just a blown fuse.

If any of this seems even slightly above your pay grade....then don't chance it. Dealer is the best place to be. You don't want to blow the EMM.
 

daselbee

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Also, a locked up hp fp will not throw any codes in the EMM. Your tach has a check engine light on it, is it illuminated?
You do have a tach, right?
 

Platypus E65

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1. No software
2. No spark tester.
3. No key, no battery, no tach.
4. The 10 amp fuse wasn't blown and I don't know if there's another fuse.
I'll ship it out tomorrow to a dealer to get it fixed.
Thanks for all the tips. Something to keep in mind for the future.
I'll ship it out to a dealer get it repaired/serviced tomorrow.
 

daselbee

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Ok....good luck with it.

It would really be great if you posted back what was wrong with it. I for one would like to know.
 

Platypus E65

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I will let you know what they did with it once I get it back. Hopefully it won't take too long in getting it up and running again.
 

Platypus E65

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I haven't forgotten you guys. I shipped it out on the 11th of last month and they are finally getting around to looking at it. Hoping I'll get it back sometime next week with details on what is wrong with it.
 
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