69 1000ss No power! Tower experts help?

FZ1

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I've had this I6 for a few months now and I finally got to water test it today. Was a big failure! I wanted to test on a weekday at a deserted launch with a full grown helper in case I had troubles, but with the weather I had no choice but to put her in the water on Sunday afternoon at a busy dock with my two little girls as helpers.

Engine starts and idles like I've read these classics like to. They want you to pump the snot outta the primer and want the fast idle lever up, and choke even if its 90F on a cold engine.

Prior to water test I did compression test, 100lbs or so each but couldn't reach the bottom cylinder. New impeller and lower oil. Link and sync according to (seloc) manual and Clams' sticky Tower of Power instructions. Engine starts and idles fine (I know, I know, I hate reading this over and over again too) Idle screws out 1.5 turns. I got the idle to around 900-1000 on muffs and 800-900 in the water. Everything in link 'n sync instructions made sense and was adjusted. Carbs open and close together from min to max. Max spark advance 34-35 degrees, initial pickup is at 5-6 degrees with timing light. Spark is evident at cranking speed as tested by simply hooking timing light to each cylinder. The secondary carb lever opens carbs to wide open just after max advance. Carb opening is verified to WFO by moving control lever at helm.

The engine seemed to be ok on muffs but of course that means nothing. On the water here's what happened:

Engine idled fine, fast idle lever only needed for starting. Went into gear at idle fine. Putted along in the no wake zone fine. But it just seemed like something is stopping it at 1/4 throttle. No sounds like straining on a dead cylinder or anything, no odd sounds at all except with the throttle down you only just get the bow starting to rise. I had my 12yr old go back and squeeze as hard as she could on the bulb but no change. This on a 16 ft Grew. Not a heavy boat. Prop is a 3 blade 13 inch 21 pitch for those who are wondering in that direction.

So it was a flop. Go out.... put around at 5mph with the throttle pinned. Go back around into line to pull out. Nice first outing LOL.

I'm guessing one of two things. All 3 carbs have idle circuits running fine but clogged mains/emulsion tubes?. (Not likely, but yes I guess I need to clean those carbs) Or ...... a two stage ignition system?. Low and high speed CDI?
not sure about that one. I don't see anything in the manual

I really don't think its the idle mixture screws but if I knew everything I wouldn't need to ask opinions now would I? LOL. Who's got a suggestion?
 

Yepblaze

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Re: 69 1000ss No power! Tower experts help?

It's got a straight up CDI. Quite reliable. It's possible it might have a plugged main jet or something similar. An hour or two (or a few) and you should be able to get the carbs off and cleaned. And back on. The carbs are keyed together and come right apart from each other once brought away from the block as a set. Just remove the bowl cover screws and leave all the bowl covers hooked together and lift away from the bodies.

These motors may drop off as powered up if the dist cap gets too cruddy, especially that button that rubs the rotor. Parts are too expensive to replace. And the rotor does not come off. The plug wires are screwed into the cap.

If someone has changed the lower unit and or prop with an "almost compatable" unit it may present itself similar. They had 2 different gear ratios that would fit that motor. turn the flywheel by hand and see how many turns it takes to get one prop revolution. 1-3/4 or 2. A 2:1 can turn props from 17 to 21+ pitch where as a 1-3/4 ratio may only see props around 13-17 pitch range.
 

emckelvy

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Re: 69 1000ss No power! Tower experts help?

Prop's probably too big, I'd slap on a 17 pitch and see what that does.

And you may want to pop a main jet brass cover plug or two to see if there's any problems with those.

But I bet it's a prop issue.

HTH & let us know what happens............ed
 

FZ1

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Re: 69 1000ss No power! Tower experts help?

Bump: I knew it ahead of time but I checked to verify anyway. I've got a 2:1 ratio lower. So my 13x21 prop should be workable. I 'm sure i could pick up on it being over propped and straining. Like I said, it seems to be only running on the low speed circuits. If it was one or 2 non working carbs it would not idle/go into gear without stalling so nicely.

I guess I'm going carb digging. It just seems unlikely that all 3 high speed circuits are clogged but the low speed is fine. Unless........aww krap! Maybe somebody "fixed" the carbs before i got the motor?

Its the hottest day of the year here. 100F in the shade is what the thermometer says. Great time to work outside! :cool:
 
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