'78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

'78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy


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Woodonglass

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Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Troop, for sanding your hull, I'd recommend you buy yourself a "Long Board" for sanding. HF sells em and the paper too. A R/O sander works well on the gouges and scratches. I long boarded the hull first just to scuff and smooth the gelcoat.and then shot a light coat of Grey primer on it. This will really reveal all the imperfections. It's then easy to sand those areas and clean, fill and fair. I did all the long boarding with 80 grit. I did all the final sanding prior to the first heavy coat of primer with 150 grit. You don't go all the way to glass unless it's a deep gouge that requires resin and glass. If you're just gunna use filler no need. A great fairing filler for the hull is 1/2 pint of resin, tablespoon of cabosil and then glass bubbles until it's just a tad thicker than mayonaise. 1.5% MEKP and you're good to go. It will will well and sand like a dream.

Good Luck with the Flip. You could build a flip frame if you don't want to use the EYE!!!
 

Trooper82

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Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Hey Trooper, read the entire thread , your doo great and looks like the work on the inside is getting close to being close to being interior time.
I did have one question, i noticed the you fillet'd the back deck with PB, but did'nt see any on the mid or front, just the tabbing. Is that correct?

Keep up the good work i'm learning all i can , i've got a rebuild in my future a deck boat like Decker83 has .

Welcome aboard Biglee...I did use PB all the way up..it just didn't show because of the angle...I also have PL under the edge of the Deck bow to stern...

You have some mighty big shoes to fill following Decker...he is doing some awesome work...

I have been thinking about interior, but think it is a long way off yet..will have to wait and see...
 

Trooper82

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Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Wood, I was actually looking at those longboards today...

When you say build a flip frame, you mean like Decker made?
 

Trooper82

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Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

So started tearing into the Trim pump unit...took some pics before starting to assist with putting it back like it was...


Evident that it was tore into prior....someone took a chisel to two of these bolts...if it had been me I would have tried to replace them...
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Wire was not soldered...see the red circles...
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Guessing I might be better off to just order a replacement? I can do the work if I can find replacement parts...but the cost might be better to just get a reman?
 

fat fanny

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Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Troop ebay boats is your friend I see hundreds of them on there all the time people parting out rigs and even new and remaned units.
 

Trooper82

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Troop ebay boats is your friend I see hundreds of them on there all the time people parting out rigs and even new and remaned units.




Thanks FF....I was actually cruising craigslist...saw a couple local not too bad priced...
 

Woodonglass

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Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Wood, I was actually looking at those longboards today...

When you say build a flip frame, you mean like Decker made?
Yep, but not quite as extensive. you can make one out of 4 2x6 and 4 2x4's and some tie down straps. But.. having seen your eye install, don't think you'll have any issues flippin it .
 

Trooper82

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Yep, but not quite as extensive. you can make one out of 4 2x6 and 4 2x4's and some tie down straps. But.. having seen your eye install, don't think you'll have any issues flippin it .


You'll have draw me a pic...not following ya...

I had planned on using the gantries I built in the flip...Bow I am not to worried about...the center of gravity on the stern though has me worried...the eyes I have (3) are all to high. I think I need to be rolling it at just about deck height, maybe a little higher to be on the center of gravity...what you think?

I saw some vids i=on utube where they make a wheel and roll the boat with it....maybe I can use something similar?
 

Trooper82

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Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Got the trim pump all tore apart and found several issues...the wire I noted above is actually just about pulled loose from the coil...

I did get things cleaned up and ready for paint...if it doesn't rain tomorrow..like it is right now..maybe I can get a coat on these...well not all of them, some are internal :)
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Hope everyone is having a wonderful __________Day!! (Insert word(s) of your choice) Like Boating...repair..demo...glassing...itching...
 

BigLee324

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Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Hope everyone is having a wonderful _zippidy do dah_Day!! (Insert word(s) of your choice) Like Boating...repair..demo...glassing...itching...zippidy do dah
 

BigLee324

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Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

So started tearing into the Trim pump unit...took some pics before starting to assist with putting it back like it was...


Evident that it was tore into prior....someone took a chisel to two of these bolts...if it had been me I would have tried to replace them...


Wire was not soldered...see the red circles...

Guessing I might be better off to just order a replacement? I can do the work if I can find replacement parts...but the cost might be better to just get a reman?

I think you should clean it with acetone and then use the mixer near it, lol; there you go problem solved
 

Woodonglass

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Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

My Drawing Skills, SUCK!, but. this might give you an idea of what I am talking about. YOu can't see in the drawing but you would also run 2 boards along the bottome to connect the front and back frames.
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sphelps

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Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Does your boat have a lower rub rail ? If so you could the holes like I did. Or maybe you can use the key hole in the transom some kind of way..
 

Trooper82

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Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

My Drawing Skills, SUCK!.....


That is a pretty detailed drawing...Making sense now...thanks Wood! Sketch on a napkin would have worked for me...
So if I see this right...I need to go ahead and pull the cap...before flipping? I have been planning on pulling the cap so I can replace wood in it...and make it easier to run wires/conduit...
What you have on the rear there is sort of like what I had seen in those vids I mentioned...basically making a giant rotisserie...
 

Trooper82

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Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Does your boat have a lower rub rail ? If so you could the holes like I did. Or maybe you can use the key hole in the transom some kind of way..

No lower rubrail SP...but I think I can use the keyhole...there are also some other holes that can be used on the rear skin....
 

Trooper82

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Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Good morning all.....


I got the trim pump parts masked and painted...waiting on them to dry before removing the tape...

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Next on my agenda is putting a new bag in my shopvac then get the boat cleaned out one last time before the deck glass goes down this week...taking a vacation day this Friday so will be up early to get that done...can't wait either!

I was looking at pics early this morning trying to figure out what to do about the opening there where the tank inlets is...
Decided to put a plug with 5200 on it in there...also put 5200 on edges of ply...this may get sanded eventually...and covered with the doghouse...

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Trooper82

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Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Pulled the rubrail off, all the screws holding the cap are off. Lightening storms rolled through so that is where I stopped for today.
 

Decker83

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Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Just catching up with you. All is looking good your way.
We have been having some rain here of and on for the last few days.

When you get ready to flip the boat make sure you use some heavy duty eye bolts. I tried to use a 1/2" stainless bolt and the weight of the boat bent it before the boat even moved. I used some 2x2x1/4" angle and welded a bracket that fit the mounting bolts for the engine. I welded a peice of 1" solid round stock to the angle and put a peice of 1 1/4" pipe over the bar and welded a flat washer at the end so nothing would slip. That let me get closer to center.
Just be careful when you flip and get some help at both ends.
 
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