89 rude 40hp o/b wont (electric START)????

[DJ]

Re: 89 rude 40hp o/b wont (electric START)????

Is the kill switch lanyard hooked up?

 

[martygry7162]

Re: 89 rude 40hp o/b wont (electric START)????

just to be sure i did it right here's what i did i pulled the wire off the plug 9leaving spark plug in) i attached the testers female plug to the spark plug and the testers male end to the spark plug wire i then tried turning it over hoping that it would light up but it didn't. proformed the same test to the second plug with simular results thats the way it says to test it and thats how i did it.................right?

 

[martygry7162]

Re: 89 rude 40hp o/b wont (electric START)????

yes it is hooked up could that be the fault maybe a short in it because it doesn't do what it's intended to do and thats shut the engine off if the clip come off..............right?

 

[DJ]

Re: 89 rude 40hp o/b wont (electric START)????

martygray,<br /><br />I am assuming that you have tried the lanyard to shut off the engine and it did not work?<br /><br />If that's the case, you most likely have an electrical problem.<br /><br />Look for fuses under the hood of the engine. I believe there is one near the starter. It is in a connector that looks like a simple wire conector.<br /><br />Pull them all apart and see.

 

[martygry7162]

Re: 89 rude 40hp o/b wont (electric START)????

ok looking for fuses and i have no idea as to were they are but if you go to my homepage wich i have listed here and click on the boat pics link it will bring you to several pictures of my engine can you tell me once having looked at the pics wre these fuses are can they be seen in any of the pics i have there<br />ty marty

 

[DJ]

Re: 89 rude 40hp o/b wont (electric START)????

martygray,<br /><br />Forget the linkage side.<br /><br />If there are any, they will be near the starter, or the top of the cylinder head.

 

[martygry7162]

Re: 89 rude 40hp o/b wont (electric START)????

are you talking about the connector that rick points to in the pic??....and does a failer spark test mean a dead spark plug or is that just too simple?

 

[rickdb1boat]

Re: 89 rude 40hp o/b wont (electric START)????

From my other post: Did you try this? This will rule out the kill switch. This is why I wanted you to try this.<br /><br />Separate the red connector and try the procedure that I outlined in my last post. You can buy a Spark Tester and a remote starter switch at your local auto parts store. All you do is hook one terminal of the starter switch to the battery side(Big Cable) at the starter, then hook the other terminal from the start switch to the other side that goes to the starter(Big Cable). You then push the button on the starter switch and the motor will turn over. In essence, you are bypassing the starter selonoid and cranking the motor directly from the battery. With the red connector disconnected, we can determine many things that could be wrong if it starts.

 

[rickdb1boat]

Re: 89 rude 40hp o/b wont (electric START)????

 

[martygry7162]

Re: 89 rude 40hp o/b wont (electric START)????

hey rick , no i didn't try bypassing the starter but i did spark test it and if i did it right then it failed and failed misserably as in both failed to light the test light. do i need to try bypassing the starter or does the spark test give you the same answers?....i also have a compreshion web page

 

[rickdb1boat]

Re: 89 rude 40hp o/b wont (electric START)????

One more time. Disconnect the large connector in the first picture that I posted. Jump out the starter to turn the motor over while having your spark tester hooked up. This test will eleminate many of the electrical problems that may cause your problems. See if you then get spark. Did you check the fuse in the second picture as DJ suggested. Let us know the results..

 

[martygry7162]

Re: 89 rude 40hp o/b wont (electric START)????

web page<br />heres a link to a piture of my engine with the cowling and and bottow gaurd off so you can see what i need to do. i'm going to give it a try and see if i can explain what i think you want me to do but you gotta look at the pic to understand me when i say i think i need to un hook the red connecttor and run an ignition switch from the purple wire of part #3to a ground on the bloch then hit the switch............................ is this right <br />you may want to click on the pic to inlarge it once your on it to make the writing readsble

 

[martygry7162]

Re: 89 rude 40hp o/b wont (electric START)????

http://hometown.aol.com/martyg7162/images/1_1.jpg <br />i'm sorry if i'm confusing everyone as i said before it's my first boat and first atempt at working on a motor i build skyscrappers for a living no boat motors thats why i'm here but bear with me because i do pick things up some time right off some times not but i will get it promise<br />ty <br />marty

 

[martygry7162]

Re: 89 rude 40hp o/b wont (electric START)????

oh and did the spark test done with the inline ignition tester (wich failed) tell me anything and can i check the compression of the engine in it's corrent condition. i'm going to do the bypass test first once i get a clearer idea of how to do it. but i was just wondering if the spark test i did meant anything at this point

 

[martygry7162]

Re: 89 rude 40hp o/b wont (electric START)????

now i'm being told that it may be my VRO fuel pump and at 260.00 to replace i hope there wrong

 

[martygry7162]

Re: 89 rude 40hp o/b wont (electric START)????

heres some of the things i tried per your instructions i think

 

[rickdb1boat]

Re: 89 rude 40hp o/b wont (electric START)????

I can't really read your last diagram, but maybe because I'm on the laptop and cannot see the whole picture. As for your numbered post:<br /><br />1=Carb<br />2=VRO<br />3=Starter<br />4=Fuel filter<br />5=Starter selonoid<br /><br />Look behind where you have the big red connector diconnected and you will see the fuse that we talked about earlier. Black looking underneath your Aqua square. Check that, too. Doubt it VRO related problems. It's ignition related if you have no spark..

 

[rickdb1boat]

Re: 89 rude 40hp o/b wont (electric START)????

Ok, went down to regular computer and saw diagram. One thing that bothers me is that the battery voltage seems low. May not be strong enough to get the starter going properly. But you are correct in assuming that there is no power going through the selonoid. If you have 12 volts going to the selonoid when you turn the key to start, it should start! Did you jump across the selonoid to see if the motor spins? Did you try this with the red connector disconnected to see if you have spark? Jump from red wire at selonoid to purple wire at selonoid as it is in your diagram. Large post to large post. Motor should turn over. Try it with the red connector disconnected and check for spark at that time.

 

[rickdb1boat]

Re: 89 rude 40hp o/b wont (electric START)????

One question. Does the motor turn over with the red connector connected and a good battery?

 

[martygry7162]

Re: 89 rude 40hp o/b wont (electric START)????

the battery reads 12.30 str8t from the meter isin't that fully charged? yes i did jump it the starter spun but did not jump up and ingaige the flywheel as for the red connector being disconnecteded or not i wanna say yes but not 100% sure will defenetly re do it tomorrow but for now lets say it was disconnected