9.9 Evinrude

chead98

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I have a 9.9 Evinrude on a 14' aluminum boat It revs high but when I put it in forward it barely moves Spark plugs are fine and throttle is good Pls help?
 

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Re: 9.9 Evinrude

Welcome to iboats!

Shear pin? on the prop shaft? Have you checked it?
 

chead98

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Re: 9.9 Evinrude

Welcome to iboats!

Shear pin? on the prop shaft? Have you checked it?

Hi and Thanks. The Shear pin looks fine. I think you mean the pin right at the butt of the prop correct?
 

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Re: 9.9 Evinrude

Spun Hub?

TerryMSU

Hi. One thing I didn't mention is that this is a long shaft on a boat meant for a short shaft. (short transom) I know the physics as I now have a short shaft on my boat and it now moves great. But, I want to sell the long shat and I can't see a shaft issue (long shaft on a short transom) to slow down a boat this much? Will it?

Thx, Chris
 

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Re: 9.9 Evinrude

when you put it in gear, does it rev up as if it's running full speed, just doesn't have speed?
That's probably a prop problem. turn off the motor, unplug the spark plugs, put it in gear and try to turn the prop by hand; if you can, there's the problem. But even if you can't, it still maybe the problem.
Pull the prop off. If you have a shear pin, there is a 2" or so metal pin going through the shaft under the prop and fitting in a groove on the prop. This is the shear pin, designed to break when you hit something (shear off) instead of your prop blades or shaft. If not, the prop has "bushing" when means it's not solid metal; there is a tight rubber fitting between the hub and the prop itself. On small props it's hard to tell that it's there.
If the pin is broken, or the bushing loose, the shaft spins inside the prop hub and the prop doesn't turn. Since you said "barely moves" I am guessing bushing, AKA "spun hub."
If not, your shift dog or parts nearby is worn out--a part inside the lower unit, basically the transmission.
 

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Re: 9.9 Evinrude

Propeller: shear pin, is the also known as the drive pin. the propeller is made of and inner case and outer case, with the blades, between them is a pressed in rubber bushing. that holds the two parts of the prop together.

a SPUN HUB is when the bushing get worn, and fails. the inner will spin, with the prop shaft, but the outer will not spin, due to the bad bushing.

take a permanet marker (sharpie) and draw a line across your hub. run the motor, then check the line, most likely it is not aligned anymore
 

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chead98

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Re: 9.9 Evinrude

when you put it in gear, does it rev up as if it's running full speed, just doesn't have speed?
That's probably a prop problem. turn off the motor, unplug the spark plugs, put it in gear and try to turn the prop by hand; if you can, there's the problem. But even if you can't, it still maybe the problem.
Pull the prop off. If you have a shear pin, there is a 2" or so metal pin going through the shaft under the prop and fitting in a groove on the prop. This is the shear pin, designed to break when you hit something (shear off) instead of your prop blades or shaft. If not, the prop has "bushing" when means it's not solid metal; there is a tight rubber fitting between the hub and the prop itself. On small props it's hard to tell that it's there.
If the pin is broken, or the bushing loose, the shaft spins inside the prop hub and the prop doesn't turn. Since you said "barely moves" I am guessing bushing, AKA "spun hub."
If not, your shift dog or parts nearby is worn out--a part inside the lower unit, basically the transmission.

When I put it in gear, it barely moves but revs high in neutral. I'll try what you mentioned here. I'm thinking it's the Spun Hub thing.
Thanks for the great info.
 

chead98

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Re: 9.9 Evinrude

Propeller: shear pin, is the also known as the drive pin. the propeller is made of and inner case and outer case, with the blades, between them is a pressed in rubber bushing. that holds the two parts of the prop together.

a SPUN HUB is when the bushing get worn, and fails. the inner will spin, with the prop shaft, but the outer will not spin, due to the bad bushing.

take a permanet marker (sharpie) and draw a line across your hub. run the motor, then check the line, most likely it is not aligned anymore

Excellent, I'll give this a try. Thanks so much for helping me out. One day I'll know as much as you guys. (about boats)
 

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Re: 9.9 Evinrude

One way to test if it is a spun hub is to pull the prop and make a mark on the inner and the outer at the the 12'oclock position . You can use a small centre punch or even a scratch,paint stripe. anything! Re-install prop (USE A NEW COTTER PIN!) and take it for a rip return and pull prop and see if the marks have separated.
 

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Re: 9.9 Evinrude

Hi. One thing I didn't mention is that this is a long shaft on a boat meant for a short shaft. (short transom) I know the physics as I now have a short shaft on my boat and it now moves great. But, I want to sell the long shat and I can't see a shaft issue (long shaft on a short transom) to slow down a boat this much? Will it?

Thx, Chris

I run a 1975 9.9 long shaft on a 13' tinny with no problems. I can get it up on a plane with the wife on board if she sits forward. It may not be the preferred set-up but it works just fine.
 

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Re: 9.9 Evinrude

I run a 1975 9.9 long shaft on a 13' tinny with no problems. I can get it up on a plane with the wife on board if she sits forward. It may not be the preferred set-up but it works just fine.

Really! Well that tells me what I have been try to figure out for quite some time. There is something wrong with the motor. I seriously thought it was the long shaft on the short transon, but you answered the big Q. Now I'll have to rip it apart for sure and check the bushings. There is only one pin in the motor right. Shear pin?(or cutter pin)

Thanks
 

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Re: 9.9 Evinrude

The prop is held in place by a bushing and castle nut, a cotter pin goes through the castle nut to prevent it from loosening.
 

chead98

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Re: 9.9 Evinrude

Propeller: shear pin, is the also known as the drive pin. the propeller is made of and inner case and outer case, with the blades, between them is a pressed in rubber bushing. that holds the two parts of the prop together.

a SPUN HUB is when the bushing get worn, and fails. the inner will spin, with the prop shaft, but the outer will not spin, due to the bad bushing.

take a permanet marker (sharpie) and draw a line across your hub. run the motor, then check the line, most likely it is not aligned anymore

Duhh, didn't see the picture till now. Awesome, thanks again.
 

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Re: 9.9 Evinrude

http://epc.brp.com/SiteMods/BRP_Public/BRP_Public_Login.aspx?ReturnUrl=/Index.aspx

Not sure what year you have there but most that I'm familiar with don't have a drive pin only a cotter pin. The prop shaft has splines so no need for a drive pin. I agree with solittle as far as the long shaft being fine to use. Just puts your prop closer to the bottom on skinny water which might be the cause of your spun prop. Best of luck. Rick.
 

chead98

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Re: 9.9 Evinrude

The prop is held in place by a bushing and castle nut, a cotter pin goes through the castle nut to prevent it from loosening.

Great, thanks. I'll try to take a look at it this weekend. It may be kinda fun
 

chead98

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Re: 9.9 Evinrude

The prop is held in place by a bushing and castle nut, a cotter pin goes through the castle nut to prevent it from loosening.

If there's a diagram of where the bushings are located and if you can explain how to get to them that would be great. Is it difficult or do I have to take it to the shop. I would rather not as I really can't afford to put any money in to it.
Thanks again,
Chris
 

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Re: 9.9 Evinrude

Look at an exploded diagram of the gearcase located at shop.evinrude.com (input your year make and model), it shows in detail how everything is put together.
 

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Re: 9.9 Evinrude

Do you know for sure that you have spark on both cylinders?
 
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