Advice about illegal fireworks

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I know its new years eve but I have a neighbor that for the last 2 years has discharged the LARGE ROCKET fireworks on the 4th of July and on new years eve. Right now we have a severe drought and there are stll plenty of dry leaves around . The police offer NO HELP. They we called last july 4th and they did nothing but come out and park and WATCH this jerk shoot off hundreds of dollers worth of the biggest rockets you can buy. Some of the stuff looked like the comercial grade stuff they use at large firework shows if you get the idea. A few firecrackers even though they too are illegal doesnt upset me that much even though my dog gets stress from it. Any ideas would help and I dont want to have to go one on one with this guy because it might start a neighbor war which I dont have time for...HELP ME!
 

JB

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Well, I would videotape the whole thing. If he starts a fire or does damage you have evidence for the DA. More important, you can probably sell the video to the media showing cops spectating at an illegal exhibition.
 

Gary H NC

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I have about 5 neighbors that do the same thing. Its a competition around here.We have one city cop and a county cop that live in the neighborhood.:rolleyes:
Just the way it is here in the Charlotte area.At least its supposed to rain over the next couple days. We usually set out on the deck and watch all that money go up in smoke.Might as well enjoy it as long as they don't catch anything on fire..;)
 

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I am licensed..... but not your neighbor. ;) Every New Year I participate in a display but.... there is normally snow on the ground here!

The best way to deal with the situation is to check with your local and State Fire Marshall's office. Here in VT they are the "authority" over the safe use and Permit Issue for the use of pyrotechnics. Whenevr there is a question of needing a permit I am always directed to the Fire Marshall and local Fire Chief. Fireworks are deemed legal by the individual State but I do believe the Fire Marshall has the highest power to shut things down and issue a summons if needed.

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Have a safe and Happy New Year.
 

i386

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My next door neighbor shoots them every year and he's a cop.
 

roscoe

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When he starts shooting them off, I would sneak over and start his roof on fire. Bet that would get him to change his behavior.

Doesn't ATF regulate explosives anymore?
Or Homeland Security?
 

ob

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What JB said.Similar scenario down here every Fourth and New Years.Each year there is a public service announcement by a representative in law enforcement, on one of the local news reports, as to fireworks being illegal within the city limits and they aim to enforce.Yet, every year the sky is lit up from neighborhood to neighborhood with rockets and shells.If the authorities would simply do their job,then perhaps it would not only deter the blatant disregard ,but fellow citizens wouldn't have the task dumped on them.Grown-ups don't often take well to being scolded by grown-ups.There simply is no textbook method in notifying a neighbor to kindly cease his festivities without some measure of hard feelings or worse. Sorta like pet leash laws.They're on the books ,but rarely enforced.Mostly buck passing betweeen the local jurisdiction depts.Good luck in your endeavors.:redface:
 

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I think Bob is right. In most states, the local Fire Marshall has jurisdiction and they tend to take this stuff a bit more seriously than police departments do. ATF also has jurisdiction but I believe that they don't usually deal with the permitting end of things.
 

SgtMaj

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Hey neighbor! :D

If you think those rockets are big, you should see what I used to set off for the 4th when I was in the marines. Can't do that stuff in a residential neighborhood :( At least not since "the incident." :D (kidding)

By the way, by rockets I assume you mean aerial shells, since you said they looked like they were "commercial grade" (which by that I also assume you mean professional grade, since commercial grade is used for demolition or mining, not displays), and because no professional displays use bottle-rocket type pyrotechnics. It's pretty easy to tell if they are professional grade by the way. Professional grade aerial shells will be about a foot in diameter (9" minimum, but usually 12") or larger, whereas commonly available fireworks can be up to about 4 inches in diameter. So if he's not loading bowling ball sized fireworks into a gigantic launch tube, they are probably just the common commercial fireworks.

More commonly people will buy those large bricks that have many small aerial shots in them. They may contain up to 500 grams of explosives without being tracked or regulated on the consumer end (more than 500 grams and you must be liscensed to purchase them).

If he's really got larger than commonly available fireworks, then you should report it to the ATF, who will most likely ignore it, or maybe write him a citation if you're lucky. But I really think you're just letting your fears get the best of you. :rolleyes:

By the way, where in the country did you say you live? Because I live in the southeast, and even though we're in one of the worst droughts, this has been a VERY wet month for the southeast, which means there really isn't an extra fire hazard, because quite frankly, I've never seen a fire start because an aquafer was 12" lower than normal. The only thing that counts is the top centimeter of ground. If that's wet, damp, or even slightly moist, that's the only thing that matters. If that's dry, AND there's plenty of fuel (leaves, wood, etc), THEN you've got a fire hazard.

PS - I've started 3 fires in my life, and all three were while cooking, so maybe cooking should be banned... OR we could just keep a fire extinguisher or hose handy.

PPS - I don't shoot on new years, only the 4th. Celebrating with fireworks on new years makes about as much sense to me as hiding easter eggs for Christmas.

PPPS - Sorry if I don't sound sympathetic to your cause, I assure you it's only because I'm not sympathetic to your cause. I mean seriously, half the problems with this world are due to neighbors not talking to each other. I'll bet you've never once invited them over, or had dinner together. You wouldn't even be asking about this if you had, because if you had, you'd be able to ask your neighbor friend to friend to shoot them off elsewhere away from your house, and it would be no big deal.

Ok, I'm stepping DOWN off my soapbox now.
 

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Re: Advice about illegal fireworks

i have a cop for a next door neighbor, he never comes outside. doesn't want to get involved.
 

SgtMaj

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i have a cop for a next door neighbor, he never comes outside. doesn't want to get involved.

I too have a cop for a neighbor. Well, I should say I HAD a cop for a neighbor, until he got caught for robbing 5 banks this summer. But they still let him come home durring the weekends and he'll be permanantly home in less than a month.

Hmm, rob 5 banks, get sentanced to 18mo... spend 5mo in a halfway house that lets you off for the weekends then get paroled. :confused: Sounds fair, except that if you're not a cop, you'd get sentanced to 7 1/2 years per offense. :mad:
 

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A situation occured last year in a suburb of Cleveland. The neighbor went out and asked them to quit. They continued until the neighbor came back out and shot and killed 3 of them. I would not suggest to do the same.

A bucket of water dumped on their stash can ruin their fun in a hurry. :D
 

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Even though "consumer fireworks" are covered and mentioned in the BATF regulations they should not be confused with high explosives.

BATF main focus is on explosives and they leave the enforcement of "consumer fireworks" to Fire Marshall's and the Department of Transportation.

Commercial display fireworks still fall under the State catagory too with the exception of Permits which are issued via the BATF. Fireworks are deemed commercial display based on the amount of the charge contained.

I would direct all questions towards the State.
 

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Naaahhh...check on the noise ordinance if there are any. Get a noise meter, record the pyro display and the decibel levels shown on the meter. Get a good lawyer, sue him for everything he got. If you own his house then you wouldn't have to worry about him living next to ya anymore.
 

i386

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It does both me a little that my neighbor is a cop and does it. It does bother me a little that I find pieces of his fireworks all over my yard. But, I've never complained to him about it. If I ever really had a problem with it I think the right thing to do (for me) would be to go to him first. It's really not worth starting a neighbor feud over.
 

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Good Idea but I like this one better.Make one of these and throw it on his roof. http://www.metacafe.com/watch/697373/more_bang_for_your_buck/

Just a note but you MIGHT want to watch how you phrase things in the future. I say this because by the way you phrased that, if he did do what you suggested, YOU could be facing charges allong side him. Advising someone to commit a criminal act is not covered by the first amendment (even on message boards), and there's nothing anonymous about the internet. Just something you might want to keep in mind for future reference. ;)
 

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It does both me a little that my neighbor is a cop and does it. It does bother me a little that I find pieces of his fireworks all over my yard. But, I've never complained to him about it. If I ever really had a problem with it I think the right thing to do (for me) would be to go to him first. It's really not worth starting a neighbor feud over.

What? It can't be! Cooler heads prevailing? Not in this day and age. :cool:
 

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IMHO, Illegal fireworks is just another law to protect us from ourselves. Used correctly in the right environment, I have no issue with them. Growing-up and living in rural areas, I'd say 10-20% of households launch them on the 4th. That percent is even higher for waterfront summer cottages.

My advice, if there is no threat to your property, is to put you dog in a room or celler that minimizes the noise. (one of our dogs has the same reaction), and enjoy the show.
 
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