Ahmadinejad Speaks clearly

[OldMercsRule]

Hi Folks, Through out history it has paid to pay attention to what the leaders of important Countries (friend or foe) have said when they use clear language. Please use your heads and think about what I just said! Democrats and Liberals are famous in their failed mind reading abilities, (like: all Republicans HATE CHILDREN, n' OLD PEOPLE, n' are MEAN SPIRITED, [thinking people, {rare these days} know the opposite is true]). Please ponder the Persian leaders' words. The Brits were the last of the major European countries to go wobbly on us, (Polland is still with us: THANK YOU). George Bush will likely be impeached for protecting us, (as he must know), so the $50.00 question is this: will Mr Bush go it allone and stop Iran? It will take tremendous courage to do it, as Iran will likely defeat us fairly easily as Iraq and our enemies within are working to do right now. Respectfully, JR

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070409140930.gdn0kic2&show_article=1

 

[JB]

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That "clear language" is a translation, JR, subject to error in tone. Not "clear" at all.

It is bluster, intended to inspire "his" people and intimidate the rest of the world. Saddam tried that, too.

Maybe they do want to build nuclear weapons and a smaller maybe they would try to use them. I don't think they are anywhere near that stupid.

Or. . . .maybe they only want nuclear power like they say they do and mean no harm to their neighbors. Maybe they are just POed that nobody believes them about it and everybody insists they quit what they believe they have a right to do.

This "I am gonna do what I please and nobody can stop me" sort of speech is one we hear from bellicose people all the time. They usually end up shooting themselves in the foot.

 

[davemaxi1970]

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sounds like a troll to me .or are you trying to p$ss of the brits on this forum? You dont have to were already peed off enough already about our own government

 

[OldMercsRule]

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sounds like a troll to me .or are you trying to p$ss of the brits on this forum? You dont have to were already peed off enough already about our own government

I did not write the article Dave, so it was not a "troll", you may be upset with your government: I can't help that. Here is another real clear article please don't read if it makes you angry.

http://aei.org/publications/pubID.25925,filter.all/pub_detail.asp

Article: "How Iran Probed, Found Weakness and Won a Triumph" By John R Bolton Financial Times 4/9/2007

 

[rolmops]

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This guy sounds like he really does not care about what the rest of the world thinks.And JB is right,these guys usually end up shooting themselves in the foot.
We should know,we've got one of our own.

 

[OldMercsRule]

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This guy sounds like he really does not care about what the rest of the world thinks.

I dissagree: Rolmops, he clearly chooses his words real carefully, and got exactly what he wanted as Mr Bolton states.

And JB is right,these guys usually end up shooting themselves in the foot.

That presupposes that someone will stand up to him. I have seen no one stand up to him yet. Who ever does will recieve Liberal wrath, and likely will not survive politically.

We should know,we've got one of our own.

I guess that is current version of Moral Relativism eh: Rolmops? George Bush = Ahmadinejad, yah right!!

Hope JB is right and one of their bombs blows up in their face. That said: I doubt it. They seem way to far ahead of us. They know our weakness more then the general MSM news consuming public does, and they exploit our Governments and media with real skill. They know they can count on the Left to keep us on the sidelines while they do their dirty deals, (sorry if that makes me a 'bad' Cornservative: JB). Blunt facts and analysis is good for most people, IMHO. Respectfully, JR

 

[Plainsman]

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JB,
I guess that Hitler, Mussolini, Japan, Norieaga and Saddam all shot themselves in the foot? Is that your point or am I missing something? Or are you saying that the USA will do something about it?

 

[Boomyal]

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This guy sounds like he really does not care about what the rest of the world thinks.And JB is right,these guys usually end up shooting themselves in the foot.
We should know,we've got one of our own.

If there is nothing else this guy cares about, it is that every time he opens his mouth, oil jumps several dollars a barrel. These people are so bereft of any traits of modern humanity, if it was not for their oil, they would dissolve back into the sands of time.

If there is any reason, whatsover, to wean ourselves from oil, it would be to drive these people back into the backwater of time that they have otherwise clung to.

...and I hope I don't hear any Liberal carp about 'what makes you so high and mighty'. I think the evidence speaks for itself.

 

[Haut Medoc]

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If there is nothing else this guy cares about, it is that every time he opens his mouth, oil jumps several dollars a barrel. These people are so bereft of any traits of modern humanity, if it was not for their oil, they would dissolve back into the sands of time.

If there is any reason, whatsover, to wean ourselves from oil, it would be to drive these people back into the backwater of time that they have otherwise clung to.

...and I hope I don't hear any Liberal carp about 'what makes you so high and mighty'. I think the evidence speaks for itself.

I agree with that middle paragraph......
Maybe global warming will wipe them out before we have to!.....

 

[waterinthefuel]

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Or maybe some of that global warming snow we're getting throughout the country can go over there and bury them.

 

[Plainsman]

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If there is nothing else this guy cares about, it is that every time he opens his mouth, oil jumps several dollars a barrel. These people are so bereft of any traits of modern humanity, if it was not for their oil, they would dissolve back into the sands of time.

If there is any reason, whatsover, to wean ourselves from oil, it would be to drive these people back into the backwater of time that they have otherwise clung to.

...and I hope I don't hear any Liberal carp about 'what makes you so high and mighty'. I think the evidence speaks for itself.

Now Boom , evidence is the same thing as facts, and we all know the libs will not acknowledge that. They only see what their agenda will allow them to see.

 

[Tail_Gunner]

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That "clear language" is a translation, JR, subject to error in tone. Not "clear" at all.

It is bluster, intended to inspire "his" people and intimidate the rest of the world. Saddam tried that, too.

Maybe they do want to build nuclear weapons and a smaller maybe they would try to use them. I don't think they are anywhere near that stupid.

Or. . . .maybe they only want nuclear power like they say they do and mean no harm to their neighbors. Maybe they are just POed that nobody believes them about it and everybody insists they quit what they believe they have a right to do.

This "I am gonna do what I please and nobody can stop me" sort of speech is one we hear from bellicose people all the time. They usually end up shooting themselves in the foot.

JB this person is leader of one of the most powerful Muslim county's in the world, and you minize his statement's I do not know you as a person, or as a businessman nor as a father or a freind, with that said " that is probably the most careless statement i have ever heard"

Think not, well how' about me making statement's to every lib in this forum causing chao's, and then instead of you censoring me, just post a post stating that i am just posturing...................... I think not, it would not speak well for i-boat's would it.......... harmoney would be gone.... ok here come's trouble... How do we tolerate that, you expect me to act with civilities in a boat forum? and yet you defend this prik in the world community?????? Like it or not this is what anger's america, yet we can do nothing about it...... BS

 

[JB]

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You are welcome to that opinion, of course, TG.

I am not "defending" him, as you accuse. His rhetoric is indefensible, but childish. Replying in kind would be just as childish.

Just what, exactly, do you propose to do? We are pretty well occupied with the war on terrorists and I don't think inflammatory speeches are worth going to war over. Moderating his behavior is up to the UN, and there are diplomatic mechanisms under way to deal with their nuclear ambitions.

Take a lesson from Teddy Roosevelt. We have a BIG stick, and speaking softly is the right thing to do here.

Your analogy to the iboats Board just doesn't fit.

 

[OldMercsRule]

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You are welcome to that opinion, of course, TG.

I am not "defending" him, as you accuse. His rhetoric is indefensible, but childish. Replying in kind would be just as childish.

MURKY'S REPLY:
JB, I did not take your comments as defending him. That said: you seem to be nearly as Cornservative as me, yet you don't seem to want civil discussions of current events. That could be "JB the Moderator", or JB the Moderate, I don't know which. I feel that the moderated discussion of current events with civil exchange of views is very helpfull for our boating community, and in the larger sense: our Country. I feel you do a very good job of moderating here. Discussion is very healthy for democracys. The more people have to defend their slogan based feelings, and when they peel the onion to defend what they say, they learn greater depth and become better citizens. That is why this is a valuable forum. I try to warn readers of the nature of the articles I post so those who get offended can skip them.

Just what, exactly, do you propose to do?

MURKY'S REPLY:
Stand up to agression!! JB, every time, EVERY TIME, the neighborhood or the world has appeased and rewarded agression: (kidnapping is agression JB), the result has been much more violence down stream. EVERY TIME IN RECORDED HISTORY: JB. That is something to be aware of and take into account when you analyse this event.

We are pretty well occupied with the war on terrorists and I don't think inflammatory speeches are worth going to war over.

MURKY'S REPLY:
I guess you did not learn from Chamberlain then did you?

Moderating his behavior is up to the UN, and there are diplomatic mechanisms under way to deal with their nuclear ambitions.

MURKY'S REPLY:
Oh yah, and the wishy washy Europeans and dictators in the UN will save us all.

Take a lesson from Teddy Roosevelt. We have a BIG stick, and speaking softly is the right thing to do here.

MURKY'S REPLY:
TR NEVER SPOKE SOFTLY IN THE FACE OF AGRESSION JB!! THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE STICK JB!!

Your analogy to the iboats Board just doesn't fit.

MURKY'S CORNCLUSION:
Agreed: YOU DO A VERY GOOD JOB HERE. I would guess that your sense of fairness makes you harder on your own, (Cornservatives), then you are on Libs, and I for one: accept that! Respectfully, JR

 

[gonefishie]

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Guys.......guys.....why Are Y'all Keep Arguing About All This Stuff That I Don't Think Any Of Us Can Do Anything About It. All It Does Is Creating Hate Between Members. Dockside Is Filled With This Stuff Everyday.

 

[OldMercsRule]

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Guys.......guys.....why Are Y'all Keep Arguing About All This Stuff That I Don't Think Any Of Us Can Do Anything About It. All It Does Is Creating Hate Between Members. Dockside Is Filled With This Stuff Everyday.

Hey GF, I sure hope ya don't hate me! I think it helps to air out current events, and I think it does just the opposite of what you are stating here. The rest of this site as well a threads on dockside are available for you and others who wish to avoid current events. Just turn the channel don't censure: Please! Respectfully JR

 

[JB]

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"Stand up to aggression" makes a pretty nice slogan, Murky, and I like it.

It is very unclear, however, exactly what action you propose.

My President said that the "kidnapping" was unacceptable and the sailors must be returned. I think it was clear that he (and we, like it or not) was standing up to an aggressive act in support of PM Blair. We don't, and probably never will know what might have been done/said off camera.

The sailors were released. End of that story.

So, what sort of action do you propose now in response to a lot of big talk?

I am quite fond of quoting Gen. MacArthur on the topic of appeasement, but I just don't see ignoring bluster as appeasement. I don't see acceptable evidence that Iran seeks to make nuclear weapons, and I don't see why they shouldn't pursue nuclear power generation that so many nations already have.

If you want something to go to war over, consider their support and arming of the terrorists in Iraq who are killing Iraqis at such a terrible rate, and a few Americans and Brits, too. Might as well toss Syria into that pot with them.

That is something to stand up to, but this silly kidnapping and hostile talk has successfully distracted too many (MSM & Co.) from what should be the important issue.

 

[davemaxi1970]

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Guys.......guys.....why Are Y'all Keep Arguing About All This Stuff That I Don't Think Any Of Us Can Do Anything About It. All It Does Is Creating Hate Between Members. Dockside Is Filled With This Stuff Everyday.

you are right of course I dont want to hate anyone, group hug? I am here to have fun and a laugh with other like minded people ans its good that we all can express different views, but some of us (me included) should not take it personal

 

[PW2]

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I agree with you, for the most part, JB. All this bellicose talk is just that--talk. On both sides.

However, Iran has a vested interest in exactly what kind of government emerges out of Iraq. What gives the US, as an occupying force, the authority to demand the Iranians stay completely out of Iraq?

I can certainly understand why we would want them to. A coalition government of Sunni, Shiites, and Kurds would be a fragile government at best, even if it existed in a vacuum, with no outside influence.

I think it time we talk to Iran, and every one else in the region, to see if it possible to salvage something out of this for the sake of everyone involved.

 

[JB]

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Oh, dear!

PW2 agrees with me. Did I say something liberal or are we both in moderateland?