al-Qaida Has Rebuilt, US Intel Warns.

[OldMercsRule]

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.....bring back Macarthyism from the 50's. That worked......and at the time most of the status quo, from what they were told, thought is was...well probably a good thing and....well probably needed. The government knew what it was doing....probably,.....at least thats what they said.
I think probably half of those people were commies.

Hey Bigprairie: All 57 on Joe McCarthy's list were on Joe Stalin's payroll as has been proven since the fall of the Soviet Union. Liberals allways work closely with our enemies, and the MSM and the Democrat party provides cover for their sleeping cornstituates.

The others (Americans) were collateral damage...that was their problem, you got to break a few eggs when you're doing an omelette.

I guess the 3,000,000 million causualties our allies suffered in 1975 after the last Democrat arranged defeat were just a few broken eggs? Hmmmmm. JR

 

[OldMercsRule]

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Here is another article that will make ya wanna get out yer checkbook n' support Obama or Edwards, (aw heck send it to Dennis Kucinich, as he has at least been cornsistently seeking ways fer us to surrender).

Great read, IMHO: "At stake in the Iraq war: Survival of a way of life"

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0712/p09s01-coop.htm

I guess I need to get some prayer rugs somewhere, as I allready have me well oiled guns n' plenty of ammo in a real safe place. The bad guys might hesitate enough to let me get the drop on 'em if they think I'm gonna pray ta Mecca: don't ya think?? JR

 

[Bigprairie1]

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.....when did you get a chance to actual see Stalin's payroll document?
I never saw that document.
I'm going run this past our accounting people to see if they can find an online record of that document. I'll include a gif file attachment or equivalent when they find it.....I'll be right back.

 

[OldMercsRule]

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.....when did you get a chance to actual see Stalin's payroll document?
I never saw that document.
I'm going run this past our accounting people to see if they can find an online record of that document. I'll include a gif file attachment or equivalent when they find it.....I'll be right back.

Try pickin' up a lil' book I own: "Venona Secrets". It might be good readin' fer yer "accounting people" to ponder as well. It will make ya real proud of yer Liberal Democrat buddies. BTW, ol' Joe McCarthy: WAS SPOT ON! JR ps: Is Liberalism a Mental Disorder??

 

[Bigprairie1]

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...my wife got that 'Venona Secrets' catalogue last month...summer issue. It rocks.....hello!! Except now my brother-in-law took off with it....something about wanting to show it to his girlfriend.

 

[OldMercsRule]

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...my wife got that 'Venona Secrets' catalogue last month...summer issue. It rocks.....hello!! Except now my brother-in-law took off with it....something about wanting to show it to his girlfriend.

Sooooo, I'm still wonderin': Is Liberalism a mental disorder?

 

[RubberFrog]

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.....when did you get a chance to actual see Stalin's payroll document?
I never saw that document.

Maybe it's because you didn't study your history very well. Most libs don't. Take tree's version of Osama's travels for instance....

 

[Bigprairie1]

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...oh, oh a medical question.....I didn't know that was going to be on the exam.
Time for a few medical experts to wade in on this.
How about guys?....any psychiatrists or psychologists out there?
Is Liberalism a Mental Disorder?....(what the heck is Liberalism anyways?)
(...we can measure and use a few of responses to this as a bit of litmus test on the issue)

 

[Haut Medoc]

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'Liberalism' is pandering to the weakest links in society ia an attempt to make everyone equal.....
Its premise is noble.....
But, like Communism, it really does not work.....​

 

[OldMercsRule]

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'Liberalism' is pandering to the weakest links in society ia an attempt to make everyone equal.....
Its premise is noble.....

Is it Noble or a mental illness Bro? The slogan above has been disproven by real life experience with close examination of the well known results of LBJ's Great Society. If a group of people ignore results, facts n' history yet corntinute to persue the same destructive policies, what do ya call that?

But, like Communism, it really does not work.....​

Amen Bro! (sorry fer the use of "Amen", Bro, but yer frank admission got yer slow Bro a bit excited!!) JR

 

[RubberFrog]

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...what the heck is Liberalism anyways?

It's a little bit like genetic diarrhea.

 

[Bigprairie1]

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......I think thats ("Genetic Diarrhea") what the Germans thought of us. We were somewhat.....impure. We (the west) were an odd mix of different thinking and diluted nationalities compared to theirs.
So...they had a plan to clean things up...and set things right at least to their way of thinking.

 

[RubberFrog]

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If you're going to make a republican-facsism link, just go ahead and make it. No need to sneak it in the backdoor like a weasel lib trying to up the welfare-cheese limits on a senate bill.

 

[Bigprairie1]

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......back door? welfare-cheese limits? senate bill? sneaking?...what the?
Lets get back to the medical question:
Is a Liberalism a mental disorder?
(.......or next time we'll drive the thread into debating why photo radar doesn't work)

 

[RubberFrog]

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Photo radar works because the bill came in the mail and I had to pay it!

 

[oddjob]

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......back door? welfare-cheese limits? senate bill? sneaking?...what the?
Lets get back to the medical question:
Is a Liberalism a mental disorder?
(.......or next time we'll drive the thread into debating why photo radar doesn't work)

Liberalism is....never having to say your sorry.....never having to utter truth....and never having to look at it......Liberalism is more like a religion... cause its based on hope and faith, not truth...

Therefore, I as a leading expert, conclude that Liberism is a mental disorder and it needs to be cured.

 

[treedancer]

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Quote rickrster


If you libs feel so guilty all the time, just give up all your possessions to the poor, move off to some secluded place, and live in poverty as a hermit.


Reread this part of my post<yes we have to finish the job this band of fools has us up to our eyeballs in.>what I meant by that part, is get some one in office with a clue and try to straighten up the mess of the past 6 and a half year.

 

[treedancer]

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Quote RubberFrog

Tree offers up a nice history of Osamas travels, but then leaves out the most important detail- the reason he left Sudan.

OK, you parroted what Hannity told ya, now take a look at the truth. Bolded for easy reading.I included the audio, no charge.

TRANSCRIPT:
Ex-President Clinton's Remarks on Osama bin Laden
Delivered to the Long Island Association's Annual Luncheon
Crest Hollow Country Club, Woodbury, NY
Feb. 15, 2002
Question from LIA President Matthew Crosson:
CROSSON: In hindsight, would you have handled the issue of terrorism, and al-Qaeda specifically, in a different way during your administration?
CLINTON: Well, it's interesting now, you know, that I would be asked that question because, at the time, a lot of people thought I was too obsessed with Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda.
And when I bombed his training camp and tried to kill him and his high command in 1998 after the African embassy bombings, some people criticized me for doing it. We just barely missed him by a couple of hours.
I think whoever told us he was going to be there told somebody who told him that our missiles might be there. I think we were ratted out.
We also bombed a chemical facility in Sudan where we were criticized, even in this country, for overreaching. But in the trial in New York City of the al-Qaeda people who bombed the African embassy, they testified in the trial that the Sudanese facility was, in fact, a part of their attempt to stockpile chemical weapons.
So we tried to be quite aggressive with them. We got - uh - well, Mr. bin Laden used to live in Sudan. He was expelled from Saudi Arabia in 1991, then he went to Sudan.
And we'd been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with them again.

They released him. At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America.
So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, 'cause they could have. But they thought it was a hot potato and they didn't and that's how he wound up in Afghanistan.


We then put a lot of sanctions on the Afghan government and - but they inter-married, Mullah Omar and bin Laden. So that essentially the Taliban didn't care what we did to them.
Now, if you look back - in the hindsight of history, everybody's got 20/20 vision - the real issue is should we have attacked the al-Qaeda network in 1999 or in 2000 in Afghanistan.
Here's the problem. Before September 11 we would have had no support for it - no allied support and no basing rights. So we actually trained to do this. I actually trained people to do this. We trained people.
But in order to do it, we would have had to take them in on attack helicopters 900 miles from the nearest boat - maybe illegally violating the airspace of people if they wouldn't give us approval. And we would have had to do a refueling stop.
And we would have had to make the decision in advance that's the reverse of what President Bush made - and I agreed with what he did. They basically decided - this may be frustrating to you now that we don't have bin Laden. But the president had to decide after Sept. 11, which am I going to do first? Just go after bin Laden or get rid of the Taliban?
He decided to get rid of the Taliban. I personally agree with that decision, even though it may or may not have delayed the capture of bin Laden. Why?
Because, first of all the Taliban was the most reactionary government on earth and there was an inherent value in getting rid of them.
Secondly, they supported terrorism and we'd send a good signal to governments that if you support terrorism and they attack us in America, we will hold you responsible.
Thirdly, it enabled our soldiers and Marines and others to operate more safely in-country as they look for bin Laden and the other senior leadership, because if we'd have had to have gone in there to just sort of clean out one area, try to establish a base camp and operate.
So for all those reasons the military recommended against it. There was a high probability that it wouldn't succeed.
Now I had one other option. I could have bombed or sent more missiles in. As far as we knew he never went back to his training camp. So the only place bin Laden ever went that we knew was occasionally he went to Khandahar where he always spent the night in a compound that had 200 women and children.
So I could have, on any given night, ordered an attack that I knew would kill 200 women and children that had less than a 50 percent chance of getting him.
Now, after he murdered 3,100 of our people and others who came to our country seeking their livelihood you may say, "Well, Mr. President, you should have killed those 200 women and children."
But at the time we didn't think he had the capacity to do that. And no one thought that I should do that. Although I take full responsibility for it. You need to know that those are the two options I had. And there was less than a 50/50 chance that the intelligence was right that on this particular night he was in Afghanistan.
Now, we did do a lot of things. We tried to get the Pakistanis to go get him. They could have done it and they wouldn't. They changed governments at the time from Mr. Sharif to President Musharraf. And we tried to get others to do it. We had a standing contract between the CIA and some groups in Afghanistan authorizing them and paying them if they should be successful in arresting and/or killing him.
So I tried hard to - I always thought this guy was a big problem. And apparently the options I had were the options that the President and Vice President Cheney and Secretary Powell and all the people that were involved in the Gulf War thought that they had, too, during the first eight months that they were there - until Sept. 11 changed everything.
But I did the best I could with it and I do not believe, based on what options were available to me, that I could have done much more than I did. Obviously, I wish I'd been successful. I tried a lot of different ways to get bin Laden 'cause I always thought he was a very dangerous man. He's smart, he's bold and committed.
But I think it's very important that the Bush administration do what they're doing to keep the soldiers over there to keep chasing him. But I know - like I said - I know it might be frustrating to you. But it's still better for bin Laden to worry every day more about whether he's going to see the sun come up in the morning than whether he's going to drop a bomb, another bomb somewhere in the U.S. or in Europe or on some other innocent civilians. (END OF TRANSCRIPT)

Here it is on audio

http://www.newsmax.com/clinton2.mp3

 

[RubberFrog]

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Nice try tree... so now everything Clinton says is true? "I did not have sexual relations...." The Sudanese even offered to keep Osama on ice.

I don't even listen to Hannity so WTF are you talking about?

 

[crabby_bob]

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So ya think President Obama or Edwards has the hair to protect ya Mrs. Jones? Me thinks the wobblies need to get on their knees five time a day fer their tribute to Mecca. 'course that really doen't matter, they kill Muslims just as easily as the rest of us.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8QALM9G2&show_article=1

This would be funny if it wasn't indicative of what's wrong with this country.