Appeals court: Brunswick partially liable in prop accident

[45Auto]

Re: Appeals court: Brunswick partially liable in prop accident

Summary of the trial here:

http://www.rbbi.com/pgic/pcases/brochtrup/brochtrup-propeller.htm

The prop gaurd they used as an example is here:

http://propprotection.com/page/Products.aspx

From the 3PO prop gaurd page:

Boat Performance

With the guard installed, bow rise is greatly reduced enabling the operator to see clearly in front of the boat even during fast start-ups; increasing lookout, steering response and control. The boat planes 16 to 35% faster.
The sleek shape enhanc?es the hydrodynamics of the mounted unit. Handling, maneuver?ability and performance increases at both high and low speeds. In tests ranging from 3200 to 4500 rpm, the Navigator boosts perfor?mance by 4 to 24%.

I don't understand what you guys are complaining about. The thing obviously makes your boat safer, makes it plane faster, and increases maneuverability and performance at both high and low speeds!! Heck, this is better than supercharging, you couldn't make your boat 24% faster if you supercharged it! This thing is great! What more could you ask for?

 

[sschefer]

Re: Appeals court: Brunswick partially liable in prop accident

Oh sure stick your foot in a blender... Seems likely that would be the lawsuit the follows the use of this device.

Ever hear of "SawStop" woodworking table saws? Unfortunately, that technology would not work under water.

 

[Knot Waiting]

Re: Appeals court: Brunswick partially liable in prop accident

Oh.... My.... God.... Too bad it didnt take off dudes head; then we wouldnt be setting precednets for morons of the future. It may sound cold but Im really sick of warning labels and saftey seals on everything becase some idiot refused to own up to their stupidity.

 

[204 Escape]

Re: Appeals court: Brunswick partially liable in prop accident

THAT "lawsuit" is frivilous "BULLSHIVICKY" IMHO !!!

 

[ajgraz]

Re: Appeals court: Brunswick partially liable in prop accident

As 45Auto points out, the 3PO prop guard claims to improve holeshot, time to plane, maneuverability and top speed. Wow, that thing should be marketed as a performance enhancer first, a fuel saver second, and a safety device only as a distant third!
(Funny, no data to support the performance claims and not one second out of the 4+ minute video on that topic.)

On the lawsuit...maybe boats/motors will one day be required to have prop guards from the factory. I'm OK with that actually; remember, it took people a long time to accept seatbelts in cars. But how the heck is this a "manufacturing defect" on the part of Brunswick if no guard is (or ever has been) mandated?

I expect an appeal, and I expect the verdict to get overturned.

 

[Monte1961]

Re: Appeals court: Brunswick partially liable in prop accident

Guess Brunswick should have hired Johnny Cochran Law Firm!

 

[NYBo]

Re: Appeals court: Brunswick partially liable in prop accident

McDonalds and hot coffee all over again.............. And we wonder why poeple have no faith in the judicial system....

Not really. The McDonalds coffee case actually had some merit. McDonalds had hundreds of previous complaints of scalding prior to the suit, and did not change their requirement that take-out coffee be served at 180 to 190*F. Shaky, but still a lot more merit than this case, which has absolutely none, IMO.

 

[fishrdan]

Re: Appeals court: Brunswick partially liable in prop accident

Now that Brunswick, Mercruiser, SeaRay have been sued for designing a flawed product,,, this monstrosity is next. Just wait for someone to get a limb between that "thing" and the prop, and be sucked in like a sausage grinder.

The case proceeded to trial three times, with the first two juries unable to reach a verdict. The third jury concluded that there was a design defect and awarded damages to Brochtrup.

You think that should have told the judge something......

 

[TilliamWe]

Re: Appeals court: Brunswick partially liable in prop accident

Not really. The McDonalds coffee case actually had some merit. McDonalds had hundreds of previous complaints of scalding prior to the suit, and did not change their requirement that take-out coffee be served at 180 to 190*F. Shaky, but still a lot more merit than this case, which has absolutely none, IMO.

No merit what-so-ever, not even shaky. Complaints about hot coffee are merit-less. And no offense, but guys like you (who I am sure are a reasonable fellow) who "accept" that merit, is what leads to the slippery slope of frivolous, "it's not my fault" cases like this prop accident.

 

[joed]

Re: Appeals court: Brunswick partially liable in prop accident

Regarding the Mac donalds case I found this info..

No one will ever know the final ending to this case.

The parties eventually entered into a secret settlement which has never been revealed to the public, despite the fact that this was a public case, litigated in public and subjected to extensive media reporting. Such secret settlements, after public trials, should not be condoned.
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[lncoop]

Re: Appeals court: Brunswick partially liable in prop accident

Guess Brunswick should have hired Johnny Cochran Law Firm!

If the prop guard doesn't fit, you must acquit!

 

[IES99]

Re: Appeals court: Brunswick partially liable in prop accident

?If the law supposes that,? said Mr. Bumble,? ?the law is a ass?a idiot. If that?s the eye of the law, the law is a bachelor; and the worst I wish the law is that his eye may be opened by experience?by experience.?

 

[NYBo]

Re: Appeals court: Brunswick partially liable in prop accident

No merit what-so-ever, not even shaky. Complaints about hot coffee are merit-less. And no offense, but guys like you (who I am sure are a reasonable fellow) who "accept" that merit, is what leads to the slippery slope of frivolous, "it's not my fault" cases like this prop accident.

Actually, I was just finding a small shred of logic, however slight and twisted, which is more than exists in the prop case.

 

[QC]

Re: Appeals court: Brunswick partially liable in prop accident

I don't understand what you guys are complaining about. The thing obviously makes your boat safer, makes it plane faster, and increases maneuverability and performance at both high and low speeds!! Heck, this is better than supercharging, you couldn't make your boat 24% faster if you supercharged it! This thing is great! What more could you ask for?

Why, oh why, is there never any data? None. There is a video on the site in which the local news, with their marine expert anchorman, says speed drops "maybe a little bit". But then there's that 24% improvement, so I guess it just depends . . . :facepalm: