AQ130D Cam bearinss ?

[Allbutwet]

Anyone have a good part number for these? Seems I have been able to find almost everthing but these. Thanks in advance. Sorry Should read Cam bearings

 

[Allbutwet]

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Might be getting somewhere. Will let you know Monday.

 

[74bayliner]

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i have the same engine, and i live in everett, wa. so hi
I bought my cam bearings from FCPGroton.
http://www.fcpgroton.com/product-exec/product_id/23723/nm/1961-1973+Volvo+P1800+Camshaft+Bearing+Set
Your engine is a b20 block so these cam bearings where installed when i had my block cleaned and tanked. hope it helps

 

[Allbutwet]

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Thanks 74bayliner. If everthing works out I will pick them up Monday or Tuesday. Planning on droping my block off this week at the machinist as well. I will let you know. If my part numbers are correct and their stock matches what I found. Then I will pick them up in Portland at Ipd USA. I will also post my part numbers because somethings are an aftermarket number. For others who might be interested.

 

[74bayliner]

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Yeah no problem what I did first was identify the differences between marine and auto engines than figured out which parts are interchangeable and can bearings were one of them than I figured out the block was b20 for aq130d after that it was simple Volvo p1800 1968-1973 works like a charm

 

[Allbutwet]

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I'm finding that as I find updated part numbers. That they are the same part number on the automotive side. With the obvious exception being the gasket kits.

 

[74bayliner]

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From my research, the difference is indeed the gasket sets, the ones you need are 18-2982 (head gasket set also known as the upper engine gasket set) and 18-2983 (lower engine gasket set ... the oil pan stuff and below i think.. it also has seals for the oil cooler etc..)
also the camshaft is different because the marine one is designed to run at high rpms for longer period of time (similar to truck and rv cam shafts), the plugs are rust resistant, and what else... i cant think of anything else right now but basic rule of thumb is this... everything in the engine except for cam is interchangeable with automotive... the pistons, rings, bearings, they can all be used from the automotive equivalent but everything else has to be marine (starter, alternator ,etc)
by the way since we both have the same engine PM me and we can share some information of what the experiance is with these engines... I have completly rebuilt my wiring harness as well and am in the process of making drawings and such... also for this particular engine i have a diagram of what is included in the Head Gasket sets, and lower engine gasket sets, and where they go on the engine, to simplify things for someone else... i know i wish i knew where everything went before i figure it out. but good luck on your journey keep in contact. -vlad

 

[PiratePast40]

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There are differences in the big end bearings and the distributors. The serial number break is for the 6 bolt and 8 bolt cranks. 6 bolt have different big end bearings from the 8 bolt (later) crankshafts. The distributors are also different and that difference is based on the distributor model number. Caps and condensers are slightly different.

I'm not sure about the camshaft. I've seen the mysterious "P" grind mentioned several times but there are no specs available for it. The stock cam has a "C" stamped on the end and the stock automotive cam also has the "C" stamped on it. You can get one from IPD USA instead of paying the $1200 for it from Sierra.

I believe the head gasket difference is based on compression ratios. You can match the marine part number with it's automotive equivelant and you should be OK as long as the machine shop doesn't plane down the head too far.

 

[RogersJetboat454]

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I believe the head gasket difference is based on compression ratios. You can match the marine part number with it's automotive equivelant and you should be OK as long as the machine shop doesn't plane down the head too far.

That is true...
I was able to order a head gasket for my B30 from a Volvo automotive dealer using the VP part number. CR is what determined which gasket is used. Oh... and it was about 40 bucks cheaper than getting one from a marina...

 

[74bayliner]

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My understanding is The Automotive Head Gaskets are made with steel and if you are using a Raw Water cooling engine than your head gasket from a car will be useless and will corrode. The marine ones are made with brass..
so unless you have an engine (closed cooling with antifreeze) than automotive wont work...

Can someone confirm this ? Don?

 

[sqbtr]

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I saw no brass on the last one I did, I did not check to see if the flame rings were Stainless or not.

I saw no real visible difference between marine and automotive. Pirate is right that there are different thicknesses for the different comp ratio's.

 

[RogersJetboat454]

Re: AQ130D Cam bearinss ?

My understanding is The Automotive Head Gaskets are made with steel and if you are using a Raw Water cooling engine than your head gasket from a car will be useless and will corrode. The marine ones are made with brass..
so unless you have an engine (closed cooling with antifreeze) than automotive wont work...

Can someone confirm this ? Don?

The difference is the core which will be either steel or stainless, not brass. As stated, when I ordered the gasket at the dealership, the Volvo Penta part number was used, and the dealership was able to get me that exact part.

I must disclose that this happened around 2004. Things may have changed since Volvo Cars has been bought out by a Chinese company, possibly separating them even more from Volvo AB (parent of Volvo Penta).

 

[74bayliner]

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I thought Ford owned volvo... man my facts are messed up i need to do some googling... But anyways fellas I went with the Marine head Gasket set because i would rather not take any chances.. from what i hear if these volvo engines are built up correctly they usually last a long time.. so i would rather pay more now than pay more later... i guess i might just be a sucker but oh well

 

[RogersJetboat454]

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I thought Ford owned volvo... man my facts are messed up i need to do some googling... But anyways fellas I went with the Marine head Gasket set because i would rather not take any chances.. from what i hear if these volvo engines are built up correctly they usually last a long time.. so i would rather pay more now than pay more later... i guess i might just be a sucker but oh well

Ford sold Volvo Cars in '09 in an effort to avoid joining GM and Chrysler in the bread line.

The point is I'm using a marine head gasket as well. It was just purchased through a automotive dealer rather than a marina... A little time spent researching, and some phone calls can save you some cash on getting the RIGHT parts... .

 

[74bayliner]

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Oh ok thanks for the information. Well if you got the correct part number thats all that matters....

 

[Allbutwet]

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Ok so here is what came today from Ipd usa.

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IPD numbers as follows.
Piston set .030 over : 110700
Cam bearings standard : 101294
Main bearings standard : 101293
Rod bearings Standard :101287
45MM freeze plug : 101299
42MM freeze plug : 101301
And somebody forgot the wrist pin busings:facepalm: Will get those tommorow. Again I spent eight hours cross referancing these. And making sure they were right. The piston and wrist pin, on the top left are the old ones getting replaced.

 

[Allbutwet]

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Oh one more thing.
Here are the gasket sets for this engine. They are a sierra number and availible right here at iboats.
Head gasket set: 18-2982
Short block gasket set : 18- 2983
Again this is for a AQ130D engine. And availible here at iboats.

 

[74bayliner]

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Yes an there is also some orings that are not included in these gasket sets that say they should be in volvopentastore.com but they are cheap to purchase separetly...
thanks for the part numbers on all of your ipd stuff.

 

[74bayliner]

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is there any particular reason you replaced the whole piston and not just the rings?

 

[PiratePast40]

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Looks like a good read on the big end bearings since the later model (8 bolt flywheel) engines use a different size than the earlier ones. Not sure if others would agree, but I'd be inclined to have the machine shop install the cam bearings since they have the correct tools to do the job.

Have you inspected the cam lobes for wear? Once they are worn down past the hardened surface, they'll wear pretty fast. You can have a cam resurfaced and hardened material replaced (i forgot the correct term) or you can replace it with a standard "C" grind.

Edit - I know the thread title is cam bearings but wanted to say something about the heads on those engines as long as this is really about a rebuild. Make sure that either you or the machine shop does a really good inspection of the head once it's cleaned up. They are prone to cracking between the valve seat and guide and that type of crack is probably not repairable. When the machinist is cleaning up the head, ask him to remove the minimal amount of material when he planes the surface. These engines were designed when higher octane fuel was common and any time you reduce the effective area, you're increasing the compression. Don't plane the head down any more than necessary or at least be aware that you may need to run higher octane fuel.