Bayliner boats

rottenray6402

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This argument reminds me of my father telling me back in the 70s to never buy a Chevy V-8 because they were no good.I think Chevy and Bayliner have proven they are worthy. I have been on Lake Ontario in my son's 20ft Trophy in some pretty heavy waves and have never seen the deflection, detraction or any other malfunction in that boat. It is just as solid as my 25ft Century I used to own.
 

rosco_59

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Gentlemen, I own a cheap Bayliner myself. I bought this boat cause it is all I can afford right now and it has been well taken care of. I will find out if it is good or not this summer, I have heard good and bad about this boat. I feel it all dependes on how well a boat is cared for. If you beat any boat and not care for them they will all fall apart in time. Please be kind to others and keep our oppinions of other boat owners to ourself. I think we are all out to do the same thing, enjoy our time on the water.
 

cuzner

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Damn this is starting to get fun!!!!!!!!!!!! :D <br /><br /><br /> Jim
 

mtrainTurbo

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Thats something else that needs to be said.<br /><br />All the anecdotal stories we hear about Bayliners are based on boats that people own. You know, people, individuals who may or may NOT be caring for their boats properly.<br /><br />Bayliners are a lot like inexpensive Hondas. They are inexpensive and therefore allow a lot of people to have a boat who never had one before.<br /><br />Lets take that analogy farther. What happens when you give a car, lets say a new Honda, to a 16 year old? Right, they TEND to not be cared for, even abused. Does this make Honda a bad car make? HELL NO!!!!!!<br /><br />Bayliners are similar. A lot of them are in bad shape not because they don't age well, but they are put into the hands of the inexperienced.<br /><br />I wax my boat every two weeks, religiously, and the service manual is The Bible to me. My mechanic knows me on a first name basis. My instructions every spring are the same: "Un-winterize it, do the maintenenance, and then do it again for good measure...then splash it, and give it absolute hell. Because when I take it out the week afterward and find something wrong with it, *I* will give *YOU* hell."<br /><br />What does that mean? It means I will put my boat up against a new boat and have a competition to see which one is in better condition.<br /><br />Boats are a product of their owners maintenance habits, period. I have seen fantastic Bayliners I would be happy to call my own, and Bertrams that should be torpedoed somewhere off the coast of Iceland and turned into artificial reefs.<br /><br />Matter of fact, you can add any pre-2000 Sea Ray to that fate too, for all I care.<br /><br />I am a car enthusiast....a scholar of the industry. For all the boat snobs I see who preach about "buying the best boat", I look in the parking lot and see they drove up in a Cadillac Escalade - a vehicle fundamentally identical to a Chevy Silverado. That tells me what I need to know right there.<br /><br />With people's attitude on boats being "buy the best", lets reverse that and look at what they drive on the road. Right now, in my educated opinion, I think the very best, most reliable, well finished vehicle you can buy is a Lexus LS430, and therefore I think that is what EVERYONE on this board should buy. Anything less is total crap.<br /><br />Is that reasonable? No. Are there cars out there that are going to be just as reliable and easy to use for shopping at the mall? Yes...in some cases, the cheaper car WOULD be the better car. Not everyone wants a Corvette, or a Lexus....and not everyone needs, nor necessarilly wants a high end boat. I just want something good looking, reliable, unpretentious, exellent-performing, and something that I don't have to mortgage my family to own. Its a luxury purchase, something that is not needed and only used 6 months out of the year.<br /><br />I think a couple of you need to get your priorities (and your genitalia length) in perspective.
 

cuzner

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Sorry but I can't resist... Ryan I guess all of us who don't have the same opinion of Bayliners as you need educating, when you starting classes?<br /><br /><br /> Hey guys does this make me a troll? :D <br /><br /> Jim
 

rosco_59

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Status symbols gents, that is what it all comes down to. My Dodge is a BMW to me.
 

minion

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O.K. let's see here.<br />Bayliners are junk according to one poster here.<br /><br />I am looking @ my brochure from my 1998 Capri 1850LS.<br />The stringer system is foam filled for superior strength AND floatation. Excellent to get 2 qualitys from one assembly!<br />The hull is constructed from the following.<br />24 OZ woven roving(inside)<br />1 OZ random strand<br />24 OZ Woven roving<br />1 OZ random strand<br />1308 double bias knit<br />Pre-cured vinalester resin/Strand barrier<br />Premuim grade Gelcoat<br />All this in a resin that "glues" all the multidirectional wovings togeather.<br /><br />In building model racing boats use of many different directions of differing materials all with their particular strenghts brough togeather is the PERFECT hull.<br />I wish I had buildt my model hulls this well. They travel @ 70-100 actual MPH. Making that 200-300 scale MPH.<br /><br />Having worked in engineering as a Lead designer for the last 30 years I trust my life and my familys life in our boat. That in Lake Michigan.<br /><br />NUFF SAID!<br />PM me wise guy and I'll PAY your airfare to see you eat those words. Followed with an apology on this for for your in ability to know (quoting someone else) your A** from your elbow. <br /><br />Balls in your court!(if ya got em)
 

mtrainTurbo

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He has none Tim. See the problem with Bayliner bashers are that when confronted with actual evidence, they have no reply. They just fall back on their uneducated opinions, since the vinyl tape Bayliner uses must be indicative of boat quality. They just never went over to the Sea Ray display and noticed that Sea Ray uses the exact same stuff.<br /><br />The beauty of the internet is you no longer have to put up with this. A couple well placed Google searches pulls up all the answers you need. And he won't take you up on your offer....he is an internet tough guy. The kind of person that inspired this photoshop pic:<br /><br />
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baja power

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Originally posted by mtrainTurbo:<br /> Look, here is me, at 40 mph in Lake Michigan, launching off a 3 foot roller. . <br /><br /><br /> That speed being 60 mph, I was still at 57 and climbing:
OHHHHH 3 foot rollers.... and 60 MPH :eek: <br /><br /><br />Well I can see I am not worthy so I will run away with my tail between my legs.. I could NEVER run in 3 foot ROLLERS and I could NEVER exceed your blinding speed of 60 mph...
 

minion

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Not bad far an 18 foot bowrider eh?<br />3 foot in an 18 foot boat = lotsa air.....3-5 g landings in that cheap Bayliner hull!<br /><br />BTW thanks again MT for the brochure.
 

mtrainTurbo

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You have a Baja. As far as I am concerned, you DEFINE "inadequacy issues".<br /><br />Next?
 

baja power

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no I dont.. sold it last summer.. I own a APACHE now <br /> :D ;) <br /><br />
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11 footer

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I have a hull sample from a 1985 Bayliner 2850 Contessa. Its just under an inch thick.
One inch!! Oh my freaken God!! That's real hard to do. Show me a hull sample of a whaler,,, oh wait, you can't because they are all still on the water, and not being scraped out in boats yards with stringer munch under the floor, if you could find a sample, you'd see that its about three times as thick as a bilgeliner<br /><br />mtrainTurbos<br />two year old b-liner may look okay now, but where will that thing be 7, 10 or 15 years from now? Its a brand new boat, it should run?<br /><br />Being proud of a bayliner is like winning the special Olympics, even if you win your still retarded!!!!<br /><br />Try this in a bilgeliner, and pray you have something left under you when you come down!<br /><br />
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<br /><br /><br />Photo credit/story:<br /> http://continuouswave.com/whaler/cetacea/cetaceaPage40.html
 

rosco_59

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All I can say is anyone who does that kind of boating is not thinking with all of his gray matter and needs to slow down. My brother-in-law has a para-sail business that he runs out on Lake Michagan and has never had a problem, he runs a Scarab and would never think of doing that kind of thing to his boat.
 

Stratocaster

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Show me a hull sample of a whaler,,, oh wait, you can't because they are all still on the water,
How does one core a hole for a sounder or thru-hull then? Same way they do in a Bayliner. And what you end up with is a plug which shows you how thick the hull is. Similar to your skull, obviously....<br /><br />
if you could find a sample, you'd see that its about three times as thick as a bilgeliner
You're telling us a Whaler's hull is three inches thick? Though I don't know this for a fact, I do seriously doubt it.<br /><br />Special Olympics huh? Gold, silver or bronze?
 

cuzner

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Baja..what the hell are you doing to that poor goat in your last post......<br /><br /> SOMEONE CALL P.I.T.A ;) <br /><br /> JIM
 

baja power

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Im not doing it. they were sick of owning a bayliner they took up gay goat sex :rolleyes:
 

Realgun

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two year old b-liner may look okay now, but where will that thing be 7, 10 or 15 years from now?
In my front year being rebuilt Cheap. Keep bashing I need a new boat in 15 years :)
 

rosco_59

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Originally posted by baja power:<br /> Im not doing it. they were sick of owning a bayliner they took up gay goat sex :rolleyes:
ever day I deal with young men who have the same mind set as you. I guess you have nothing intellagent to say so you have to put something on the board that has nothing to do with what is being talked about. ;)
 
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