Boarders repeatedly buzzzing by while I'm trying to fish

[DJ]

Re: Boarders repeatedly buzzzing by while I'm trying to fish

On Norris, they ar ein center consoles, pretty easy to spot here. I wish they used regular open bow boats so they fit in better. Would make people think before being stupid.

ANY CC on an Arizona lake is suspect. That's why I like them. People steer clear.

 

[Mark_VTfisherman]

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They stopped using whalers a couple decades ago around here. They are easy to spot though with the blue light high on a mast and their BDU's. Their navigational demeanor is characteristic too.

In Vermont the Coastie's are on Champlain and Memphramagog, and are always decent, but come up on you fast with big boats.

However, the State Police boats (often in small Whalers) run up on your aft on many popular lakes, usually with retired officers in command. Mostly pleasant but they make you nervous.

But the Fish & Wildlife wardens come out of nowhere in big boats that better belong on Champlain, and make you think some half-in-the-bag vacationer is about to run you over! While I support their job and appreciate what they do, I don't break fishing laws, but whenever I am accosted they have been suspicious and demanding.

I was fishing with a high school kid from the church youth group last summer on Lake Carmi, and I thought I was going to be boarded. They threw us a line and tied up portside, grilling us for over ten minutes about our fishing, and basically they cross-examined every answer we gave. Even had us open our boxes and coolers. I didn't object cuz I didn't have anything to hide, but I probably was in my legal rights to decline.

BTW: DJ- I think the pictures of your whaler do look like a harbor master or police launch I like it

I have called law enforcement several times with boat reg #s. Once I was packed to the max with gear, probably at my full legal capacity after a teen camping trip, and in a no wake zone on Waterbury Reservoir. Some early twenties kids in a 24'-ish V-hull with tow towers went full plane off my bow, and although it was dangerous, I had just enough time to turn into the wake. Then they circled and full-throttled by my portside literally 20' away. Closed bow so I didn't swamp, but with them doing over 50mph I didn't get turned much and I took on water over the gunnel. They cut my bow again and we wrote down the numbers and called them in. A 14' Niagara is not a big boat, but has a lot of freeboard for its size, but many other 14'ers or tinny's would have swamped. Maybe I should have sterned-to and throttled away, but it was unexpected and happened fast, and my boat with a 40horse doesn't plane up quick when loaded heavy.

 

[DJ]

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BTW: DJ- I think the pictures of your whaler do look like a harbor master or police launch I like it

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Thanks Mark.

There was method beyond my MADNESS!

 

[crackedglass]

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Had this past week off. Mostly did stuff with the family or got things done around the house, but I reserved one day during the week to do a little fishing by myself. Figured a weekday would mean a nice empty lake.

It was kind of windy and the lake was choppy so I went to a quiet protected cove that was nice and still. It also had a park at the end of it, so I was looking at trees instead of big lake houses. I thought, perfect! But the minute after I put anchor down close to the shore, a boat appears and they start kneeboarding (or wakeboarding, can't tell the difference). They're doing big ovals, going right by my boat. Every time they go by I brace for the wake effect, which was ridiculous, even a little scary. Good thing I don't get seasick. It was such a great spot otherwise I held my ground for a while, thinking they'd back off some, or go somewhere else, but they kept buzzing close by. I stood up and tried to make eye contact but they just ignored me (considered some choice sign language, but thought better of it). finally gave up and found another fishing spot.

I think, since the boat appeared so suddenly that they were from one of the houses nearby on the lake, and they felt like they "owned" that cove. Or maybe they were just stupid jerks

I was on a charter boat with a 8 others fishing aboard, along with the captain and first mate. We were fishing in rough, open water nearly a mile offshore, anchored up. No sooner we started catching fish, some yahoo in a small jetboat starts doing laps around the boat, and along with that some other joker is all but running over the anchor line trying to move in on the spot we were in.
I thought the captain had the right idea, (keep in mind we paid good money to be there that day), his anouncement was "$50 for the first piece of glass, $20 a window after that!", as he walked around with a bucket full of 8 oz. sinkers.
Needless to say it didn't take long for them to get the message. No one hit the boat but I can't say a few weren't thinking of a quick $50.
We fished the rest of the day without interuptions and caught fish. We use that same captain all the time now.

 

[chiefalen]

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I have to post to this one, was fishing off Sandy Hook, in Raritin bay. We locals call it the rip. Drifting along, with 4 poles out about 60-70 feet of line out.

About 50-60 yards off shore.

Large waves all the time great fishing and a lot of boats during stripper season.

I'm with my 13 year old, i call him the fishing machine.

No weather, no waves bothers him.

Along comes a larger boat between me and the shore and snaggs all my lines in his prop, and he stops and starts yelling at me.

All the while he puts up his drive and tries to get the line off his prop, and behind his prop cause he knows could mess up his seals, and than all the outdrive oil will leak out, he must have had it happen to him before.

My son says to him why you yelling at us, you got a whole ocean behind us why you have to go between us and the shore.

The guy in on his swim platform, and falls off, and climbs back on the platform, cold as a witch's you know what out.

I moved the boat out from the shore about 100 yards away, watching him.

Threw out the other 2 rods i had made up, and start redoing the 4 rods he snagged.

My son is catching fish, and the guy is still trying to undo the line, other boats are close, i don't know them but said they hope the dude gets washed up on the beach, he got no right snagging us.

Guy is yelling at the other boats also, i told him to shut up eat s--t and die.

It was so peaceful and nice till he showed up, was a good drift about 20 boats all about 60-70 yards apart. All keeping out of the others way, all catching fish, was just nice till he showed up.

No matter where you go, there is always one guy thats got to ruin it.

 

[reelfishin]

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I generally avoid fishing on weekends or holidays, it's never good out there with all the weekend warriors and all the jet fleas.
I don't get many days off or many chances to spend a day out fishing and when I do, I expect to be able to do so without some clown trying to ruin it.
I like the sinker idea, aim for glass. I've been out there, anchored, fishing and catching fish only to look up and see a dozen more boats within shouting range. I had one guy actually try to tie off to my anchor line in a duck boat. When I went ballistic, he couldn't understand why. He was 4 or 5 miles out in a 14' duck boat and four kids and had no anchor.
I had another joker in a much larger boat come through were we were anchored up for quite some time, along with other boats, come drifting through the crowd, blasting his horn and on the speaker to make way, commercial charter boat coming through. If I didn't move, he'd have run right over us in his drift. He hit one boat, which resulted in a fist fight. To make it worse, the marine police sided with the charter boat and told everyone there that he had as much right to the water there as we did.

There was one incident similar to that a few years back where a guy drifted into an anchored boat and the boat that got bumped turned around and snagged the guys drift sock and dragged it around his props.

I have no feelings for a guy that handles his boat like that, if a guy is fishing and he was there first, stay away, no wake, keep out of casting range.

For years, I never carried a flare gun, only stick flares, after that incident, I bought a really good metal one and keep lots of flares. If that clown had hit my boat, I'd be going for that flare gun. Right or wrong, some people only learn one way. If I were on a boat which pulled a stunt like that, I think the captain would have a problem. To me it's that's a captain that is not in control of his vessel and is endangering not only his passengers but other boats and their passengers as well.

 

[salty87]

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Large waves all the time great fishing and a lot of boats during stripper season.

stripper season is year round here, parking lots are packed...haha

 

[david_r]

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I generally avoid fishing on weekends or holidays, it's never good out there with all the weekend warriors and all the jet fleas.
I don't get many days off or many chances to spend a day out fishing and when I do, I expect to be able to do so without some clown trying to ruin it.
I like the sinker idea, aim for glass. I've been out there, anchored, fishing and catching fish only to look up and see a dozen more boats within shouting range. I had one guy actually try to tie off to my anchor line in a duck boat. When I went ballistic, he couldn't understand why. He was 4 or 5 miles out in a 14' duck boat and four kids and had no anchor.
I had another joker in a much larger boat come through were we were anchored up for quite some time, along with other boats, come drifting through the crowd, blasting his horn and on the speaker to make way, commercial charter boat coming through. If I didn't move, he'd have run right over us in his drift. He hit one boat, which resulted in a fist fight. To make it worse, the marine police sided with the charter boat and told everyone there that he had as much right to the water there as we did.

There was one incident similar to that a few years back where a guy drifted into an anchored boat and the boat that got bumped turned around and snagged the guys drift sock and dragged it around his props.

I have no feelings for a guy that handles his boat like that, if a guy is fishing and he was there first, stay away, no wake, keep out of casting range.

For years, I never carried a flare gun, only stick flares, after that incident, I bought a really good metal one and keep lots of flares. If that clown had hit my boat, I'd be going for that flare gun. Right or wrong, some people only learn one way. If I were on a boat which pulled a stunt like that, I think the captain would have a problem. To me it's that's a captain that is not in control of his vessel and is endangering not only his passengers but other boats and their passengers as well.

i believe i would have to have told the "marine police" to kiss my a**.

i understand he was trying to say nobody owns the water, but siding with a charter boat over regular fishermen is bulls***..... EVERYONE has a right to be there, and who ever shows up last gets the most undesirable spot thats part of fishing-----who cares if this jerk has a charter.

my next move after the fist fight and the clearly discriminant way the police handled the situation would be a call to the main headquaters------yes skip his commanding officer and go straight to the top---or as high as you can reach.

the sad part is the cop and the charter captain were probably buds.

i just hope this never happens to me........i would hate to have to spend my fishing money to get out of jail.........or worse have to sell my boat to pay for assault charges.......................

i know i already stated that everyone has a right to be there..........but there are some exceptions!!

if i wanted to get my lines tangled and have to deal with rubbing elbows with every other fisherman out there-----i wouldnt have bought a boat...i would have just fished from the bank.

happy boating everyone!!

p.s. sorry if i sound like an a**hole but discourteous boaters/fishers really get to me.........not to mention favoritism from the local authorities. my first cousin is married to one of our local game wardens and i would expect him to give me as many tickets as he saw fit..........if i was in the wrong. its a JOB that needs to be done right, personal feelings should have nothing to do with your JOB.

 

[a70eliminator]

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I can be seen on saturday with my wife and a bunch of kids (big boat) doing watersports, then on Sunday I'm all about fishing (little boat) I drift, troll, anchor, or pull up on the bank and fish, depending on how buisy we are that day.
I have never ever had a problem with fisherman or wakeboarders, I simply put myself in their shoes. Being both a fisherman and a have fun watersports with a bunch of kids boater I have to bend a little both ways.
If I see a guy fishing I'll definately give the guy as much room as I can when buzzing by pulling a skier, if he throws things at me or gives me the finger I figure he's just some lowlife, can do no wrong, pissed off at everyone sort of guy, the very next day it may be me fishing in that area getting buzzed by skiers and I would never ever take actions like that. A friendy thumbs up and they'll probably go away but throwing things or anything else innapropriate and you just asking for it and the fishing boat usually looses.

I guess it's when two of those personality types come together is when the fights break out. What i'm thinking as a fisherman is, if it's that guy and i throw something or flip the bird then he's going to come by me again even closer punch me in the nose or something.

 

[beerfilter]

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It takes 2 parties to fight .
1 to act , the other to re-act .

Water rage is just as stupid as Road rage , IMO .

CATransplant's method is the most intelligent solution , if you cannot call the authorities .

I've done the same " rope a dope " many times .
Percy Priest has quiet a few of those little spots , some out where you least expect them .

There's 1 spot in particular where a spine of limestone sits about 3' below the surface at normal pool .

During low water , it is a nasty surprise for the unwary , especially if they are also stupid enough to follow me while doing circles around my jon boat .
Theres a lot of pieces and parts around that rock , some of which belonged to folks who thought I was an easy mark .

1 guy in a ~ 24' cuddy actually destroyed his hull !
Shattered the hull from bow to transom , and it sank in the channel to the marina as he made a desperate run for shore .

Another spot LOOKS deep , and it is , ~ 8' .
All except for litteral minefield of huge rocks just below the surface .
Dynamite spot for catching smallies , and , retards .

Most folks know this area and avoid it .
I would anchor just on the outside edge , and cast into the whole area .
Even those that were familliar with this spot , knew they could safely buzz me IF they stayed to the outside .

I would slowly let out anchor line and drift into the rocks , to slow for the morons to notice .
Sooner or later , they would all hit bedrock .
My best was 3 in 1 day . I can't count the jetflea as it was under legal size , LMAO .

Life is hard .
It is harder when you're stupid !

 

[chiefalen]

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Reel i take my boy and my wife won't let me keep him outta school to go on the hook ( wink ).

It only takes one guy that thinks no one else go a right to live but him.

 

[reelfishin]

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.............. ........There's 1 spot in particular where a spine of limestone sits about 3' below the surface at normal pool .

During low water , it is a nasty surprise for the unwary , especially if they are also stupid enough to follow me while doing circles around my jon boat .
Theres a lot of pieces and parts around that rock , some of which belonged to folks who thought I was an easy mark .

1 guy in a ~ 24' cuddy actually destroyed his hull !
Shattered the hull from bow to transom , and it sank in the channel to the marina as he made a desperate run for shore .

Another spot LOOKS deep , and it is , ~ 8' .
All except for litteral minefield of huge rocks just below the surface .
Dynamite spot for catching smallies , and , retards .

Most folks know this area and avoid it .
I would anchor just on the outside edge , and cast into the whole area .
Even those that were familliar with this spot , knew they could safely buzz me IF they stayed to the outside .

I would slowly let out anchor line and drift into the rocks , to slow for the morons to notice .
Sooner or later , they would all hit bedrock .
My best was 3 in 1 day . I can't count the jetflea as it was under legal size , LMAO .

Life is hard .
It is harder when you're stupid !

There's a few spots like that on the river here, if I take the small boat, I can get up on one bend of the river and fish inside the lilly pads, to oncoming boats, they think its all open river. It's not, there's a 3" deep sandbar in the middle, with several old, huge, jagged looking stumps and lots of rocks.
The other side is all broken concrete put there to stop erosion. I've watched many buzz through that bend full speed and stop dead, with all passengers exiting the boat, or a skier going for a rough tumble as his skis run out of water. A jet boat at full speed can sometimes make it over the shallow spots, so long as the stumps are well covered, but the skier's rarely get that lucky.

I had one guy tumble all the way up to my boat, we had to pull him ashore he was so busted up and disoriented. My boat wasn't big enough to drag him on board, I just grabbed his vest and towed him ashore. He wasn't seriously hurt but he sure was dazed.