California Boaters Caution - Quagga Mussels

Nandy

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Ahh, shut! cant find a copy. Probably cuz is for the Sea Grant only... It would be nice to read it and use it as a base for the discussion...
 

evinice66

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ill see if i can find it buried the the old files soon... but i do have alot of other factual things that i can post too, but there outdated.. its been a long ttime since i was involved in all that, its not a "real" book porsay but was used in the 90's to help people become aware of the whole situation, more of a cutesy cutesy deal. this was before the zebras had infected alot of our wisconsin lakes... theres no stoping them. also this is long before i even thought about using the internet, if i grew up with a computor i definately whould have had all of it backed up on a zip file.... just give me a couple days, ill find some copys somewhere....
 

Nandy

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That sounds cool!
 

SS MAYFLOAT

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My first experience with the Zebras was in Lake Erie. I started going up there in the mid 80's. The water was dark and you could not see any further down than about 3 or 4 feet. By the early 90's with the Zebras, you could see down 10 to 15 feet. During the that time, anything below water line was just encrusted with them. Water treatment plants had to keep cleaning their fresh water intakes.

The Zebra's eggs are about 1/3 the size of a speck of dust. That is why anything that remains wet in your boat that has been in an infested waterway will contaminate what it goes into. In Ohio, our inland lakes have now been infested as well. I haul my boat out every 2 months to do a washdown. If I don't, within 3 months, my water intake of my outdrive will become so clogged that it will starve my water pump. It also play havoc on the steering/tilt mechanisms on the outdrive as well.

Sarg, I agree with the others. These are nothing to experiment with. It would be like raising cockroaches.
 

geoloco5150

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Big problems with these little critters in the Colorado River waters (inclusive of Lake Havasu). When traveling from Arizona to California you are made to stop at the inspection station and pull your drain plug. Aren't these little fellas capable of living with the cooling system as well? If so, I wonder if there is anything that can be added to the cooling system between launches to kill them?
 

SS MAYFLOAT

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Big problems with these little critters in the Colorado River waters (inclusive of Lake Havasu). When traveling from Arizona to California you are made to stop at the inspection station and pull your drain plug. Aren't these little fellas capable of living with the cooling system as well? If so, I wonder if there is anything that can be added to the cooling system between launches to kill them?

The water in the exhaust manifolds and engine(depending on your cooling sys) is too hot for them to live. At least that is what I have been led to believe.
 

evinice66

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im sorry nandy i only got over to my moms house once so far and she wasnt home. i still looked but my family is involved in so many different charity auctions and fund raisers, you can literally dig threw the layers of "sidiment" to find out what year it is... lol, but i promise you a result relatively soon though... i did find a interesting picture amoung others that i will post tommorow... good night to all
 

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There was a big meeting yesterday regarding Cachuma, but no decision was made whether to close it or not. No one can launch now anyway because the new launch ramp is not finshed and the old ones are under water (lake filled). I think they have been dragging their feet in finishing the ramp until a decision is made.

Yesterday, a friend of mine said he just fixed a guy's engine that had been in a slip at the lake. The water intakes were infested with some kind of snails that ruined the impeller and pump housing.

There's always something!
 

D445547

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At this point the only thing boat wash stations and the like are doing is slowing the spread of the Quagga.
The best way to kill them is with vinegar and hot water solution. Run it through all areas of your boat where water collects. Bleach works too, but I don't advise it.

Quaggas and Zebra mussels are in pretty much abundance in the eastern US. But how far have they spread west of the 100th Meridian? The following is a list and approximate timeline for the spread in the West.

Jan 2007: Discovered in Lake Mead
Jan 2007: Discovered on Intake to LA Met Water District, Lake Havasu
Mid 2007: Discovered on Colorado River, Parker Strip
Mid 2007: Discovered on Intake to CAP (Central Arizona Project)
Late 2007: Discovered in CAP system in Scottsdale, AZ
Late 2007: Discovered in Miramar, Murray, Lower Otay & San Vicente Resevoirs, San Diego
Late 2007: Discoverred in Lake Pleasant, AZ
Early 2008: Zebra Mussels discovered in Pueblo Lake, Colorado
Early 2008: Zebra Mussels discovered in San Justo Resevoir, Central California

From first Western discovery on Lake Mead in January 2007, Quaggas and/or Zebras have spread to Central Arizona, Central and Southest California. The've been found in a Colorado Lake. That's a very short 1 year period. Could your Lake (and source of vital drinking water) be next?

These things don't grow legs and walk from lake to lake, nor are they transported by wildlife. Humans are the ones spreading the mussels across the country. Not intentionally, but accidently in recreational boats, tournament fishing boats and re-located commercial boats. Help stop the spread of Zebra and Quagga mussels.

So, what are they?:
A brief overview of the Quagga Mussel taken from Wikipedia:

The quagga mussel (Dreissena rostriformis bugensis) is one of seven Dreissena species. This species is indigenous to the Dnieper River drainage of Ukraine.

The quagga mussel was first observed in North America in September 1989 when it was discovered in Lake Erie near Port Colborne, Ontario. It was not identified as a distinct species until 1991. The species was called the quagga Mussel after the quagga, an extinct subspecies of African zebra, possibly because, like the quagga, its stripes fade.

It causes many of the same problems (damaging boats, power plants, and harbors and destroying the native mussel population) as the equally invasive Zebra mussel of Russia. It is also displacing native burrowing amphipod (Diporeia hoyi) from the deep waters of Lake Erie.

The quagga mussel shell is striped, as is that of the Zebra mussel, but the quagga shell is paler toward the hinge. There are a large range of shell morphologies, including a distinct morph in Lake Erie that is pale or completely white.

In 1994, invasive species biologist Anthony Ricciardi determined that yellow perch did not find the invasive dreissenid species palatable. In 2004, he determined that yellow perch, over the intervening 10 years, had developed an appetite for the Quagga mussel. While sounding like good news, it is tempered with the knowledge that it introduces contaminants into the food chain, notably Clostridium botulinum.

In January 2007, quagga mussels were discovered at a marina in the Nevada portion of Lake Mead, and two other lakes on the Colorado River, Lake Mohave and Lake Havasu. [1]
 

TonyD20

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Re: California Boaters Caution - Quagga Mussels

With there tiny size about the only 100% safe way is




"Wait five days between launches into different freshwater bodies of water."[/quote]


Is this true? Is this a sure way to not infect your lake with these mussels if you are moving your boat around from lake to lake?
 

Addis

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The water in the exhaust manifolds and engine(depending on your cooling sys) is too hot for them to live. At least that is what I have been led to believe.
When checking the sea pumps impeller because of the higher running temp. you,ll never guess what I found in the impellers housing. Also I found the little critters blocking some of the oil cooler tubes and a lot of ground up shells restricking water flow through the heat exchanger. (warm to hot area) It might be a good idea to inspect oil coolers more often.
 
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sanssouci

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What I find interesting about the two type of mussels is the fact they need a certain amount of lime content in the water to form a shell.

The proof of this is the Moon river basin where the softest water in all of Ontario empties into the eastern shore of Georgian Bay. This area is protected by an island delta that limits the water mixture of the two water sources. (Muskoka Lakes water shed & Lake Huron)

This creates a definite line of mussels and no mussels, it's interesting to see the water change colour at the point of dilution.

I think it will be impossible to stop them from spreading to every lake in North America, but it's worth a try.
 

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im sorry nandy i only got over to my moms house once so far and she wasnt home. i still looked but my family is involved in so many different charity auctions and fund raisers, you can literally dig threw the layers of "sidiment" to find out what year it is... lol, but i promise you a result relatively soon though... i did find a interesting picture amoung others that i will post tommorow... good night to all

No problem evincice!
 

D445547

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Re: California Boaters Caution - Quagga Mussels

With there tiny size about the only 100% safe way is




"Wait five days between launches into different freshwater bodies of water."[/quote]


Is this true? Is this a sure way to not infect your lake with these mussels if you are moving your boat around from lake to lake?


Only if 5 days is enough to dry EVERY single area of your boat (it's not). Read my post, it takes a vinegar and water solution to kill them. 5 days is not a sure bet by any stretch. Trying to dry the boat is not enough. I work on Lake Powell and this topic is huge right now as we do not "offically" have them in our lake.
 

Hashi

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I just went to Lake Berryessa and at Capell Cove, and I was surprised that there was no warning signs or any print material posted. This is a major water source for several neighboring counties and I guess the Bureau of Reclamation is not too concerned with the spread of these critters. Nevertheless, we should all do whatever steps are necessary to contain them.
 

LubeDude

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It's a huge concern in Califorina right now, they have just imposed an inspection to get into Clear Lake Starting the 8th of April.
What I want to know is:

Will the inspection stations be open 24 Hrs a day?
What If I want to launch at 5:00 AM. do I have to wait until 9 AM for the inspection station to open?
How am I going to access my bilge area, do I have to take my boat apart because my boat has a scrwed down cover over it?
 

Hashi

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I have a buddy that's going there in a couple of weeks and I'll have him get some more information. I'll post it when I get it. In the meantime, I hoping others will chime in.
 

boatradioman

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thanks even though I don't live in California.we need more people who take their time to help or alert others for their safety.
 
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