calling all lake mead boaters! nevada

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I've never had a box anchor, and I definitely do not want to start a war here, but every test I have ever read places them almost dead last in holding power. I know a lot of personal experience says different, so I guess I remain confused :confused:
 

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3 points of tie off at 120* would have been nice. 4 at 90* would have been better. Chain is 2' long maybe it should be 4'. That short trip whooped me. I'll look at when and if we go out in a different way now.

It looks like the majority of the jury has spoken, and you're wayyy short on your chain, friend. I have at least 20' as well. The chain really helps to keep the pull on the anchor horizontally, along the bottom, hooking up the anchor more and more with each pull. If you don't have that chain weight, the pull angle increases, pulling the anchor up.
 

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I've never had a box anchor, and I definitely do not want to start a war here, but every test I have ever read places them almost dead last in holding power. I know a lot of personal experience says different, so I guess I remain confused :confused:

I've heard they work great in a variety of conditions with no chain needed. Never tried mine - it's still as pristine as a mantle piece :cool:
 

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Dog leash screws are a good idea, never thought of that. I've been using sandbags, their cheap and have worked well. I carry a little coleman fold up G I Joe shovel for a number of things, the bags being one of them. About 3 years ago took sis and b-n-l to Powell houseboating. They were new to boating and loved Powell (imagine that). When we were loading up the truck, I told him about the sandbags to hold the shades down. He asked"Where are we going to get the sand to fill them with?" Really George? I about fell out the back of the truck LMFAO. I never let him forget that one.
 

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It looks like the majority of the jury has spoken, and you're wayyy short on your chain, friend. I have at least 20' as well. The chain really helps to keep the pull on the anchor horizontally, along the bottom, hooking up the anchor more and more with each pull. If you don't have that chain weight, the pull angle increases, pulling the anchor up.

More chain it is...and a second anchor.
 

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and a second anchor.

Excellent plan. I've lost several anchors getting them hung up and having a second anchor saved the day. Who knows what's down there or what the anchor will dig into, I brought up a big honkin' tree branch once after circling the hung anchor, real pain getting the anchor unwedged from the branch boatside... Look into a different style anchor, unless you are confident with how your present anchor works. My navy works well in most situations, but wouldn't do carp in the strong currents below hoover dam, drug it for 1/2 mile bouncing off the rocks as it wouldn't bite. I tossed out a Chene and it hooked up quickly. The Chene is kind of a pain though as you have to drop it in slowly or it can lay wrong and drag, and you're not supposed to use it with chain (even though I still do).

Good idea on the dog leash screws Skiya, We tied the corner anchor lines of our canopy off to a couple 30# rocks last trip, and a gust still unsettled it. (It didn't go swimming though)

What type of canopy are you guys using? Last trip I drug out our 10YO screen sided canopy and it was a hassle setting it up, bunch of poles like a cabin tent. I'd like to get one of those expanding frame canopy's as they look easy to set up. (you know, the kind you see littering the beaches that people leave to "reserve" their spot...)
 

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What type of canopy are you guys using? Last trip I drug out our 10YO screen sided canopy and it was a hassle setting it up, bunch of poles like a cabin tent. I'd like to get one of those expanding frame canopy's as they look easy to set up. (you know, the kind you see littering the beaches that people leave to "reserve" their spot...)

For us, the best ones are the 10 x 10 e-z up type. They're light, easy to set up, and they come with their own bag. If you're going to be using it strictly for lake use, some sporting goods will sell them with a warranty package for an extra $5-$10. They cost a little more through these stores, but they're only good for 2-3 seasons with regular lake use anyhow the way we set them up 1/2 in the water, so the warranty package pays for itself over & over :cool:
 

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What would be a good choice for a 2nd anchor

A Chene is close to what you have now, just more heavy duty. The shank is a bit different so it's easier to retreive, the flukes are heavy plate steel and the tips of the flukes are really pointy. I like mine and will buy another is I ever loose it. Dunno about the box anchors, they look good for sand/mud, but I don't know how they would work in rocks.... I've had a couple anchors that were bad, some funky barrel looking one with 2 claws on each side that were "supposed to dig in (something like the box anchor's claws) and a mushroom. I lost both of those, good riddance. I like the navy, but it gets a tad heavy hauling up a 10#er with 20' of chain attached, for a navy that will hold your size of boat, you'd need to bring along a couple extra sandwiches... One thing, I'll drop the navy overboard with chain and not worry about it, but I powerdown and set against the Chene, to make sure it's hooked up and not flipped over. I've never had the navy drop fouled, but the Chene can foul or hang upside-down. You have to deploy the Chene the right way...

some sporting goods will sell them with a warranty package for an extra $5-$10.

Glad I asked, I could see how one of those could get messed up after a couple of years, worth the extra cost and warranty. What store did you go to that had the warranty, Sports Chalet, Sports Authority? I wouldn't think Big5 would do something like that.
 

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That's what I have is a couple 10 x 10's, one lasted me about 10 years but I setup on land. Also have a extra shade top that I use for a side wall to keep the morning and afternoon sun out, works great so I don't have to keep moving things around to keep out of the sun. 12v is right, they are easy to load/unload in and out of the boat and setup. Got to have shade out there in the summer months.
 

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Post pad to get me to 4000 :D

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Well, I'm gonna see if I can break the evil wind spell and head out this weekend. I have some work left to finish in the trailer, but I'll most likely get on the water Sunday.

Peculiar weather we're havin' ain't it

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What's happening at Lake Mead. Posted by the National Park Service, Lake Mead National Recreation Area

Pruning Vegetation
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Inventorying those pesky quagga mussels
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I'll be heading out too this weekend. 12v, you goons be out there Saturday? Mushroom?
 

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I'll be heading out too this weekend. 12v, you goons be out there Saturday? Mushroom?

I'll be working in the trailer Sat and on the lake Sunday is the plan. We were first planning on heading up into the canyon, but the lake level is dropping like a rock so we will most likely go to Hualapai or Sandy Point just to get some cruzin time in. We won't be on my boat (I don't think). We will most likely be on my buddy's 28' Bennington tri-toon.
Will you be on the lake Saturday only, not Sunday?
 

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Gonna be a warm one

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I've been to Willow Beach once with my yak. Only made it about half way up the river and couldn't go any further (2 hours). Coming back down was a lot easier and only took 15 minutes.

I think the Canoe would be quicker, but still a tough battle.

Good to see another Mead boater on here Jerry. Have you ever visited Willow Beach and gone up river with your yak or canoe? I fish there a lot and always thought it be fun going up/down river by human power.
 
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