can anyone help me ID these two old evinrude engines?

[stackz]

my grandfather has been somewhat of an older boat collector for a little while but now realizes he's 92 and never going to do anything with them lol.

he's been getting me to help him pull the boats one by one out of the darn woods to cut up and haul off to the dump.

these boats are in BAD BAD shape. I mean bad. the starflite engine's boat has a 10" diameter pine tree growing through the middle of the hull. no idea how it made it through the hull, but it did lol.

anyway, as payment for helping him clean them up, he's going to give me these two engines.

the first one all I know about it is that it looks ancient. its got a control box of some sort mounted inside the transom and then goes to the throttle control up by the driver seat.

even my grandfather doesnt remember anything else about it. It may be seized, who knows. I figure there's got to be at least some parts on it worth selling if it turns out to be junk?

the second looks like a smaller mid 80's? evinrude? its got a nice aftermarket prop on it and I took the cowl off and it looks complete underneath but with the prop in the dirt and I cant reach the controls right now due to more tree growth...I couldnt get it to turn over by hand. it could be seized as well?

in physical size it looks about the size of a 40-50hp engine but no clue honestly.

I'm going to pull both setups off completely and see if I can get either of them freed up and then run some compression tests if that goes well and go from there.

what do you guys think?

he's also got an old speed boat with a junked 350 IO setup running what looks like an alpha 1 drive. I happend to have two good running 350's and this looks like it may make a good foundation to swap my dad's old 4-banger IO setup in his old Mark I 19' boat over to something fun as hell lol.

 

[ezmobee]

Re: can anyone help me ID these two old evinrude engines?

First one looks like a Fat Fifty. The second is a mid-80's 60-70 3 cylinder. Both could be runners.

 

[yorab]

Re: can anyone help me ID these two old evinrude engines?

The first motor looks exactly like my 1961 75hp parts motor. It's probably not junk if you don't mind doing some work, assuming that it ran when it was last used. If not, you can get some money out of it by parting it out.

That box inside the transom is part of the "Unicharger" system and contains the voltage regulator, ac-dc diodes, starter solenoid and connecting wiring. The control box near the operator's seat houses the forward/neutral/reverse switch as well as the ignition switch and overheat light. If you decide to part out the motor, I''d be interested in the control box since my box has a few cracks in it and I'm trying to renew my motor and controls. You'll have to PM me on that if you go that route. If you don't go that route then you have a good old motor to work with.

Can you read the serial number on the transom bracket? We could absolutely identify those motors then.

 

[stackz]

Re: can anyone help me ID these two old evinrude engines?

Can you read the serial number on the transom bracket? We could absolutely identify those motors then.

you mean for the boat itself or numbers that will be on the engine itself or the bracket that holds it to the transom? It wouldnt be before this weekend before I could get that info and even then, I think its supposed to be a downpour around here at that point.

 

[ezmobee]

Re: can anyone help me ID these two old evinrude engines?

Numbers are usually on the motors' transom brackets.

 

[stackz]

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left or right side? outer portion so I dont have to try to lift the engine, etc? I'll gladly try to find the numbers but never really knew where to look in the first place and its not exactly easy to get to the big older engine as you can see in the pics.

 

[SeaKaye12]

Re: can anyone help me ID these two old evinrude engines?

Old? They're not old! hehe....

It's hard to tell from your picture; but the second one might be a 15" short shaft...desirable with the folks who are restoring 60's vintage ski-boats.

Those are both cool finds...but I see that you're in the Carolinas and if they're salt water engines you might have quite a task ahead of you.

Good luck, Chuck

 

[DJacksonRN]

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Let me know if that lower pic is of a hydro-electric Evinrude (early 70's). I just revived one of those and only live 20 min from JI.

 

[yorab]

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For the first motor, the tag will be on the left-side transom mounting bracket when looking toward the front of the boat. I'm not sure where they are on newer motors. You won't have to remove anything to see the tag, I guess you just have to muscle your way through trees and underbrush. I'll post a pic later of the transom bracket tag on my 1961 parts motor so you get an idea of what to look for, though it'll be obvious once you get in there.

 

[stackz]

Re: can anyone help me ID these two old evinrude engines?

Let me know if that lower pic is of a hydro-electric Evinrude (early 70's). I just revived one of those and only live 20 min from JI.

you mean the second motor? whats a good give-away for identification? I'm going to try to head up there tomorrow on my lunch break and get some numbers and more pictures as my curiosity is only getting more and more lol.

 

[ezmobee]

Re: can anyone help me ID these two old evinrude engines?

It's not. It's mid-80's (unless someone went to the trouble to paint it the wrong color and swap decals).

 

[yorab]

Re: can anyone help me ID these two old evinrude engines?

stackz, my parts motor didn't come with the transom mounting brackets so I can't show you a pic. But like I said, you'll see the tag right away once you get in there. No need to lift off the hood or anything, it'll be to the left of the motor looking forward.

I believe that the Starflite I was made in '59, the Starflite II in '60 and the Starflite III in 1961, so yours is a 1961 model.

 

[samo_ott]

Re: can anyone help me ID these two old evinrude engines?

Yorab, just based on your signature if you have a SF4 and it's a '63 how can the SF3 be a '61?

 

[yorab]

Re: can anyone help me ID these two old evinrude engines?

uhh...yeah, good point samo_ott. Scratch what I said. But I believe that we can say that it is an early '60's model. The model number will say for sure. I suppose that I need to look into the Starflite model years.

 

[54fleetwin]

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http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r215/84cr500lover/seite_04_05.jpg

 

[stackz]

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ok, got a chance to swing by since I was in the area for work and snap some more pics as the ground was decently dry back there where the boats are.

I guess the newer one really is a 70hp engine lol. The model # is E70TLCRD.

also, even though the hull is aluminum, its ripped in six spots from hitting a stump on the water apparently. my grandpa says we'll just recycle the boat and I can have what I want off of it including the trailer frame (axle is rotted).

I'm going to salvage as much of the equipment off of it as possible including the seats, steering, etc. I think the controls are junk and man it looks like the tilt/trim is rusted solid. anyone know what model controls will fit this engine if once I get it out, its not locked slam up and I want to try to start it eventually? curious what they run on ebay used, etc.

 

[samo_ott]

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That is not a happy looking boat

 

[stackz]

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moved on to the old starflite and after getting myself wedged in there (there's another boat wedged under this one that the engine is sitting on apparently) so much fun lol.

the model # is 50927. the plate also says "operating range 4000 to 5000 rpm" and "75hp at 4500rpm" so I'm guessing this thing is a 75hp engine? any clue to the year and exact model of it?

while I was there, I fiddled with the cowl and even though I have no idea how it came off, it came off and I got some pics of the engine. I also grabbed the flywheel even as rusty as it is and it did turn over so the engine is free! whether that is a good thing or bad thing (maybe no compression?) remains to be seen. is that some sort of clutch flywheel as well guys? I could see what looked like springs inside the holes?

again, I'm going to salvage as much off this boat as I can before it goes to the grave.

I also took some pics of the 350 omc outdrive setup that I'm going to find a place to post on here so I can figure more info out about it as well.

 

[stackz]

Re: can anyone help me ID these two old evinrude engines?

none of the boats are happy at all. I'd say all 3 boats my grandpa has are very very very ill lol.

 

[samo_ott]

Re: can anyone help me ID these two old evinrude engines?

The 50927 is a 1961 Evinrude 75hp Starflite. And boy, is that flywheel rusty! Never seen one that bad. And boy that boat looks unhappier than the first one!