j_martin
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Re: Can Electric Marine Propulsion Be A Reality (in pleasure craft)?
bingo!
then i can have a "green" boat!!
bingo!
then i can have a "green" boat!!
You'd get the efficiency, lose the shifting mechanism, be able to locate the gas/diesel motor anywhere based on best weight distribution and be able to have closed circuit cooling.
If the pleasure boating industry doesn?t think outside the box and at least start working on this problem we might one day be able to delete all the iboat forums except for the Dockside Chat. Because if you can?t afford the fuel.... that?s right?. See you at the dock party!![]()
I started a thread to find a credible and successful conversion from Gasoline to LNG or LPG in a pleasure craft. Questions and opinions arose about electrical propulsion for pleasure craft. So, I decided to start this thread to look into the feasibility of that idea.
We all know electrical motors are very powerful and can be engineered to run at variable speeds regardless of the load. In today?s world some electrical motors are designed to be intrinsically safe, water resistant and even corrosion resistant. If you look at the technology used by the rail industry and a train?s fuel efficiency (considering the load it is hauling) there is a question that?s begging to be asked. Why can?t engineers put this technology into pleasure craft boats at an affordable price?
So for all those who are experts on this subject let?s beat this one to death and just maybe an engineer snooping around this site will pick up on this thread and any ideas you have to make this a reality.
A lightweight and affordable fuel cell would break this open. Must be wheeled vehicle first, and it will not be stored hydrogen, it will be a reformer and use another hydrocarbon, gasoline, diesel, NG, LP Ethanol etc. Not Hydrogen!!!
Hydrogen, the fuel of the future and it always will be . . .
Never say never, but not in our lifetimes, even SBL's . . .![]()
BAhahahahaaaaa!!!How about using wind energy to propell a boat. Maybe a big stick up in the air with cloth on it to capture the wind. Fasten some sort of cloth to it to make it more efficeint. No fuel, no batteries, no noise.
Come to think of it it has already been done.
The problem with this, and it is one of the issues I have with Hydrogen, is whether it is wind or a flux capacitor, the resulting energy is not "free". Plug into the grid and you can sell it for X, that is the true cost (opportunity cost). The fact that it is used to crack Hydrogen doesn't negate this . . . so again, why?We could see a day when wind engergy is used to "crack" water to obtain the hydrogen and store it.
Why a 30 hp engine to drive a 10kW gen? Other than that, if you're happy with 4 MPH, then you're good to go.3. Assume that weight is not an issue
4. Speed and efficiency is not the immediate objective. Forward and reverse propulsion is the objective
2. Install a variable speed electric motor with a spline shaft that will marry up to the stern drive
3. Install a small engine (of say 30 Hp) with a through hull exhaust system
4. Install a 10k watt generator
Will it work? If it would I estimate the Hp at the spline shaft to be about 13.5 Hp. I know that's not near enough, but you gotta start somewhere.
OK, I know you all think I?m crazy, and I thank you for indulging me. Here is my idea. Again I am a firefighter, not an engineer so for the sake of discussion about my idea please assume the following
1. Assume that all the parts will fit into the boat?s engine compartment
2. Assume that specific adjustments to various parts would inevitably be needed based on many needed calculations that are not a part of this discussion
3. Assume that weight is not an issue
4. Speed and efficiency is not the immediate objective. Forward and reverse propulsion is the objective
1. Remove engine and transmission from the engine compartment leaving the stern drive mounted.
2. Install a variable speed electric motor with a spline shaft that will marry up to the stern drive
3. Install a small engine (of say 30 Hp) with a through hull exhaust system
4. Install a 10k watt generator
Will it work? If it would I estimate the Hp at the spline shaft to be about 13.5 Hp. I know that's not near enough, but you gotta start somewhere.
OK, I know you all think I?m crazy, and I thank you for indulging me. Here is my idea. Again I am a firefighter, not an engineer so for the sake of discussion about my idea please assume the following
1. Assume that all the parts will fit into the boat?s engine compartment
2. Assume that specific adjustments to various parts would inevitably be needed based on many needed calculations that are not a part of this discussion
3. Assume that weight is not an issue
4. Speed and efficiency is not the immediate objective. Forward and reverse propulsion is the objective
1. Remove engine and transmission from the engine compartment leaving the stern drive mounted.
2. Install a variable speed electric motor with a spline shaft that will marry up to the stern drive
3. Install a small engine (of say 30 Hp) with a through hull exhaust system
4. Install a 10k watt generator
Will it work? If it would I estimate the Hp at the spline shaft to be about 13.5 Hp. I know that's not near enough, but you gotta start somewhere.