carb and outdrive ratio

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1972ish GM mercruiser L6 250 cid 165hp prealpha outdrive i think it's a model 3? not sure i was wondering if these outdrive #s can determin is it an R,MR, and/or what model? And/or the ratio? 2462278 The other question is there is a larger than the carb cover/mounting plate under the carb on the manifold, Is it possible it's for or can a 4brrl carb be installed? thanks people:)
 

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I would think it is a model one, not an 'R' or 'MR'......
Don S would have the wherewithal to look it up & tell you the ratio, but it is most likely 165:1.......
I don't think there is a four barell manifold for that engine...
There really is no beefing up the hp on that particular engine......;)
 

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Why the large mounting plate and not just a intake hole to recieve this carb. Huh? maybe to adapt various smaller carbs or to clean out intake. I'm thinking of ways to beef it a little because i think this motor "auto 1968" is only 155-160 hp will struggle to move a 3000 lb boat "1972 215 ss slickcraft. i'm in search of a 292 for the following seaso that should be a noticeable difference but this season i'm going to putter with this 250 being its rebuilt.
 

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Well, you probably have a model 160 engine, since the 165 model didn't come out till 76, the 160 used a One drive with a 1.68:1 ratio, the 1.65 ratio didn't start till 76 with the 165 engine.
The III drives were used on the V8 engines, like the 327, 350, 427, etc. between 68 and 72.
 

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Well, you probably have a model 160 engine, since the 165 model didn't come out till 76, the 160 used a One drive with a 1.68:1 ratio, the 1.65 ratio didn't start till 76 with the 165 engine.
The III drives were used on the V8 engines, like the 327, 350, 427, etc. between 68 and 72.

Don, Just so you know, I had a 1972' Wellcraft Airslot 18.5ft that had a 165hp/250cu in Mercruiser (Type one drive) all original. The horsepower was listed in bold letters on a plate on the motor. This is the one I bought with a siezed engine, that although it looked pristine, I still had to rebuild it. As I recall, it had a large plate over the manifold where the 2bbl carb sat, that i believe you could remove, & put a small 4bbl on, as long as you found a close match, & adapted the linkage. (I never went that far with it) There was an aluminum automotive 4bbl aftermarket manifold available for these inline chevy 6's way back when, they're rare as hen's teeth, and I don't know if they're marine (suitable, matchable, or if it's exactly the same as the Mercruiser used?) but, I believe I read somewhere they were good for 180hp on the 250"/6cyl.

I was the 2nd owner of this boat, I bought it from a young woman who owned a Piano store, and drove, and raced a Porsche 928, she bought the boat new for her dad in 1972! He stopped using it, because it wouldn't start, and it sat for a number of years. She was divorced, and I was also heading that way, I tried to hook up with her, but I was actually not in her class, so it didn't work.
 

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Don, Just so you know, I had a 1972' Wellcraft Airslot 18.5ft that had a 165hp/250cu in Mercruiser (Type one drive) all original. The horsepower was listed in bold letters on a plate on the motor.

Very possible if your boat was molded in late 72 after the 73 engine package came out. But his SN's and note that it's 72ish all says it's a 160 with a one drive.
 

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The origional motor was a 160 or 165 but i have a 1968 auto engine i'm putting in that came with the boat and needs to be installed, it's rebuilt and according to the "auto" manuals it's 155hp. I am curious about a 4 brl carb for it though maybe a marine carb from a small block gm might fit. I have some research to do i guess. I'm thinking 155 hp my be a little under powered for a 20'6" 3000 lb boat. I should only be using it for this one upcoming season until i can find a 292, is what i think would be ideal for this boat. Well thanks guys any more info would be great.
 

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But his SN's and note that it's 72ish all says it's a 160 with a one drive
at mercstuff.com. it confirms that too...... yer serial falls in the proper range.... check out the how to identify yer drive section.....

There really is no beefing up the hp on that particular engine......;)
i think that's the case too........

good luck findin a 292....... i've been reading about boats on line for 3 or 4 years now......i've seen one boat powered by 200hp L6....had a pair of them....... i think there's some differences too.... from memory (reading). the ft. motor mount is different......... compensation for the harmonic balancer if it remember right..... don't take that as fact though. i have no proof....
 

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I found a whole truck with a 292 for $300. if i rebuild it and i can put a 4brl carb on the 250cid manifold i'd be golden huh? lol thats my goal anyway even if i can't put a 4 brl carb the 292 would be a good improvement i think? I'll see if i can't get a pic of the plate on my manifold. the pics my camera takes are to big to put on here sometimes. I'll try it again though, thanks for the info
 

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The one thing I know to be different then a 1970 Nova 150hp/250 cu in straight six which I also owned, is a 2bbl carb, instead of the automotive version which only had a 1bbl carb. This is probably one of the reasons it was rated 165hp as a marine engine, also the camshaft maybe different (it may have a truck cam).
 

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I found a whole truck with a 292 for $300. if i rebuild it and i can put a 4brl carb on the 250cid manifold i'd be golden huh? lol thats my goal anyway even if i can't put a 4 brl carb the 292 would be a good improvement i think? I'll see if i can't get a pic of the plate on my manifold. the pics my camera takes are to big to put on here sometimes. I'll try it again though, thanks for the info

A man after my own heart,,,lol,,, go for it! You'd have some potent "stovebolt six" if you could find all the parts to put that combo together. I'm surprised you found a 292" Chevy six, another item that's rare as "hens teeth"! I wouldn't be surprised if the factory intake manifold, and the aftermarket 4bbl manifold I once saw, are one, and the same,,, just modified for marine use.
 

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haha I'm gonna try. Heres a pic of the intake plate below my carb.
 

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the carb is still on it in the upper part of the pic sorry it's not a better pic but i think you guys can see what i'm talking about
 

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I wonder if that plate is in the parts breakdown as a cover or base plate?
 

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If you remove that plate it may take a 4brl??? Or? whats the reason for a large base plate like that? hmmm?
 

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Here's a pic of the base plate under my carb and a parts breakdown too. Has anyone had an L6 with this same manifold? Has anyone wondered why a large mounting plate for a small carb? any chance of a 4brl carb bolting up to it?
 

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Re: carb and outdrive ratio

Mine has the same adapter plate. I assumed it was to allow carburators manufactured with different throttle base plates to mount (as opposed to manufacturing a unique manifold for each possible carburator configuration).
 
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