Carpet Glue

[knoell3]

Planning to use this glue:

http://www.lowes.com/pd_62475-41173-62475_0_?productId=3036724&Ntt=carpet adhesive&Ntk=i_products&pl=1&currentURL=/pl__0__s?Ntk=i_products$No=15$Ntt=carpet adhesive

to lay new carpet on my boat.

Any experiences or opinions regarding this, or best glue to use for plywood and aluminum surfaces?

Thanks,

Chris

 

[q5ka]

Re: Carpet Glue

Have you thought about snaps insted of glue? Advantage is that when your carpet is soaked from a heavy rain or fish guts or tubing, you can unsnap it, hang it over a fence and dry it out. Yes, that means you should put paint or something over your deck, but there may be times you dont want the carpet also. I think for the price you pay for glue, you could have paid for the snaps also. Just a thought (which is what I had done and really glad I did).

 

[knoell3]

Re: Carpet Glue

Have you thought about snaps insted of glue? Advantage is that when your carpet is soaked from a heavy rain or fish guts or tubing, you can unsnap it, hang it over a fence and dry it out. Yes, that means you should put paint or something over your deck, but there may be times you dont want the carpet also. I think for the price you pay for glue, you could have paid for the snaps also. Just a thought (which is what I had done and really glad I did).

Interesting. Can you buy snaps that install on the carpet and plywood or aluminum deck, or do you you have the buy the carpet with the snaps installed?

 

[JoLin]

Re: Carpet Glue

Try here:

http://www.iboats.com/Snap-Fasteners/dm/*******.568077338--**********.099636756--view_id.40189

Not a fan of carpeting on a boat, AT ALL. Anything that retains moisture, helps promote rot. IMO, if you're gonna do it, at least make it removable.

My boat came with a full snap-in set for the cockpit- it stays in the garage

 

[arks]

Re: Carpet Glue

I agree with q5ka. Put down some epoxy paint with aggregate (sand) and then cut the new carpet to fit.
Last time I did it, I had binding installed around the perimeter. Looked better than factory.

Interesting. Can you buy snaps that install on the carpet and plywood or aluminum deck?

Sure. You've gotta invest in a snap installation dieset but they're cheap and easy to use.
I'm sure iboats sell 'em.

Here' ya go. Only 6 bucks:

http://www.iboats.com/Snap-Fastener...28736339--**********.669859307--view_id.40210

 

[robert graham]

Re: Carpet Glue

Have you thought of using Vel-Cro type hook and loop fastener, easy to remove for cleaning/drying. Good Luck!

 

[tintug]

Re: Carpet Glue

I also agree with" no carpet " in a boat . I also am not using the original pour in foam...that I think caused this whole problem.I am going with the pink or blue closed cell foam and durabac for the final finishing of the deck.

 

[arks]

Re: Carpet Glue

Another option you may want to consider is a new product called 'Deckadence'. It has characteristics similar to carpet but will not absorb water. Google it.

One of my dockmates used it in his cruiser last year and, I gotta say, it's REALLY nice!
I might consider putting some on my boat, but it's expensive.....of course.

 

[knoell3]

Re: Carpet Glue

Some very good ideas with snaps and velcro. For those that have used these methods, can you get the carpet tight and wrinkle free? I am starting to really lean towards snaps now. Also, is the die set needed to install the snaps? Cannot figure out what it's purpose. Looks like the female snap would screw into the decking and the mail (carpet side) installs by way of a hole in the carpet??? Thanks folks for your responses and great ideas.

 

[arks]

Re: Carpet Glue

The die is used to attach the snap to the carpet. That snap has an inner and outer piece that needs to be mated.

 

[PiratePast40]

Re: Carpet Glue

To answer your original question: Whenever you use the carpet adhesive, take it easy on the amount of adhesive you lay down. It's not the same as putting down grout for tile. You don't need a continuous layer. Too much adhesive and it'll come through the carpet backing and make it look like the carpet is worn through in those areas.

 

[Isaacm1986]

Re: Carpet Glue

I use heavy duty liquid nails for lying in all my carpet. Works great, it is waterproof, and wont peel back up. Make sure it is the heavy duty stuff, it is the only liquid nails that is water proof.

As far as carpet promoting rot, it does retain moisture. But if your deck is glassed really well it should last you 15+ years. The way that I look at things is in the event i still have the same boat in 15 years I am going to want to do some updates on it anyway.

I have also used a epoxy based garage floor paint with outstanding results. I just mixed in a little sand for grip and then rolled it on. Worked well for me.

So there are options out there for you, go with what you feel is best for you.

Just my two cents.

 

[knoell3]

Re: Carpet Glue

I use heavy duty liquid nails for lying in all my carpet. Works great, it is waterproof, and wont peel back up. Make sure it is the heavy duty stuff, it is the only liquid nails that is water proof.

As far as carpet promoting rot, it does retain moisture. But if your deck is glassed really well it should last you 15+ years. The way that I look at things is in the event i still have the same boat in 15 years I am going to want to do some updates on it anyway.

I have also used a epoxy based garage floor paint with outstanding results. I just mixed in a little sand for grip and then rolled it on. Worked well for me.

So there are options out there for you, go with what you feel is best for you.

Just my two cents.

How long do you have to work with the liquid nails before it starts setting up? Also, can you trowl it pretty thin after running it out of a caulk gun?

Thanks all ! !

 

[Isaacm1986]

Re: Carpet Glue

you have 20-30 min to work with before it will start to set up. It will trowel out very easily. I like working with it a lot! Works very well, is cheap at $3 a bottle, and will hold up to the harsh world of boating. It has always worked well for me.

 

[arks]

Re: Carpet Glue

you have 20-30 min to work with before it will start to set up. It will trowel out very easily. I like working with it a lot! Works very well, is cheap at $3 a bottle, and will hold up to the harsh world of boating. It has always worked well for me.

You guys better plan to sell those boats before you need to re-do the carpet again.
That stuff is impossible to remove without damaging the substrate.

 

[boatflipper]

Re: Carpet Glue

You guys better plan to sell those boats before you need to re-do the carpet again.
That stuff is impossible to remove without damaging the substrate.

Do you think if you used a high quality carpet that would last for 10 or so years, it would be worth it?
I have no idea-that's why I am asking.
I am going to be putting carpet in very soon and would like to know best way to glue it in....although I have considered the snaps.

 

[Isaacm1986]

Re: Carpet Glue

I think a nice indoor/outdoor carpet will last a long time as long as it is covered or indoors when it is not in use. I am going on 3 years in my bayliner and it still looks like new.

Last year i put in some grey carpet that was on sale in another boat, just recently ripped it out to redo the transom. It came out with some work.

 

[knoell3]

Re: Carpet Glue

This is the carpet I am using: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...488&var=560001921591&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

Dont know if it's top of the line but I paid $1500 for the boat and it should do. The boat will be garaged when not used.

Thanks again for your replies. I think I am going to use the liquid nails.

Chris

 

[MTribe08]

Re: Carpet Glue

Have you thought about snaps insted of glue? Advantage is that when your carpet is soaked from a heavy rain or fish guts or tubing, you can unsnap it, hang it over a fence and dry it out. Yes, that means you should put paint or something over your deck, but there may be times you dont want the carpet also. I think for the price you pay for glue, you could have paid for the snaps also. Just a thought (which is what I had done and really glad I did).

Would you mind posting up some pictures of your snap in carpet?

 

[bankfisher]

Re: Carpet Glue

I used what looks to be the same carpet and glue when I re did my patio 3 years ago. I was not happy at all. The glue says it is for outdoor use but it started coming up about 2 months after I put it down. It just kind of turned to dust.

I am not sure what other options are out there for carpet glue. I can only say how my experience turned out.

Maybe if you keep the boat covered (my patio is not) and keep it for the most part dry, you may be fine.

Good Luck